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Old 06-27-2014, 08:56 PM   #321 (permalink)
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Who ? and WTF
"2 years from being 2 years away"...nuff said
Did you hear the one that he lied about his age and he's really 25?
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Old 06-27-2014, 09:06 PM   #322 (permalink)
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There been a fair few comparisons to Javale mcGee. MU drafted JM for the same reason he picked Caboclo. Jm pretty much sucks. Napier, Hood, or Capela, if you prefer, could end up being worth far more than McGee... or BruCab. He could be anything from Kwame to Amir. I'm going to flat out say Durant is impossible without knowing a thing about him. Even 18 year olds out of high school, when it was allowed in the draft, were projected to be better, went much earlier and were not nearly the raw project this is. If he ends up better than Amir (fdor example) at his age now, he's the lowest pick that's 18 year old to ever turn out that way. But some people can't even admit this is a big gamble? Mu is a good Gm but he's not Jesus. I'm not a god fearing man, but if this kid turns out better than Amir, I will switch from Chritianity or Masaiism and drink the koolaid too.
masai didn't draft mcgee and we don't know how raw this bruno guy is

also, mcgee's problem is not that he's raw, but that he's a nutcase and has no brain.
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masai didn't draft mcgee and we don't know how raw this bruno guy is

also, mcgee's problem is not that he's raw, but that he's a nutcase and has no brain.
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There been a fair few comparisons to Javale mcGee. MU drafted JM for the same reason he picked Caboclo. Jm pretty much sucks. Napier, Hood, or Capela, if you prefer, could end up being worth far more than McGee... or BruCab. He could be anything from Kwame to Amir. I'm going to flat out say Durant is impossible without knowing a thing about him. Even 18 year olds out of high school, when it was allowed in the draft, were projected to be better, went much earlier and were not nearly the raw project this is. If he ends up better than Amir (fdor example) at his age now, he's the lowest pick that's 18 year old to ever turn out that way. But some people can't even admit this is a big gamble? Mu is a good Gm but he's not Jesus. I'm not a god fearing man, but if this kid turns out better than Amir, I will switch from Chritianity or Masaiism and drink the koolaid too.
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Did you hear the one that he lied about his age and he's really 25?
Tbh, i don't pretend to know anything about this kid...i just think it was an extremely odd choice

Fingers crossed that it works out...in 4 or 5 years
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Tbh, i don't pretend to know anything about this kid...i just think it was an extremely odd choice

Fingers crossed that it works out...in 4 or 5 years
He's likely to play this coming year.
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There been a fair few comparisons to Javale mcGee. MU drafted JM for the same reason he picked Caboclo. Jm pretty much sucks. Napier, Hood, or Capela, if you prefer, could end up being worth far more than McGee... or BruCab. He could be anything from Kwame to Amir. I'm going to flat out say Durant is impossible without knowing a thing about him. Even 18 year olds out of high school, when it was allowed in the draft, were projected to be better, went much earlier and were not nearly the raw project this is. If he ends up better than Amir (fdor example) at his age now, he's the lowest pick that's 18 year old to ever turn out that way. But some people can't even admit this is a big gamble? Mu is a good Gm but he's not Jesus. I'm not a god fearing man, but if this kid turns out better than Amir, I will switch from Chritianity or Masaiism and drink the koolaid too.
Javale singlehandedly shit on the Lakers with Pau & Bynum in the playoffs 2 years ago. He's a bit of a knucklehead... but Coach Karl was good for him. A lot of people said the same things about Deandre Jordan and look what Doc did for him this past season. If McGee is 100% healthy I'd expect him to have a very good 2014/15 season as the undisputed starting C in DEN.
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masai didn't draft mcgee and we don't know how raw this bruno guy is

also, mcgee's problem is not that he's raw, but that he's a nutcase and has no brain.
Does it change the fact that lots of people compared him to the shitty McGee and thats why he was taken. And McGee was taken 18 and was raw? And that a player that big still sucks? And you know this guys makeup already? And its still not a gamble and any of you know more than any of us about him? Cool story Jebus.

and JM is NOT deandre Jordan!!

and it would not be the first time a player form south america or africa lied about his age and it happens plenty. not saying thats the case here but to dismiss it as impossible is ridiculous. Mayeb they MRI'ed him

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Old 06-27-2014, 10:28 PM   #329 (permalink)
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Tbh, i don't pretend to know anything about this kid...i just think it was an extremely odd choice

Fingers crossed that it works out...in 4 or 5 years
Agreed. I do think it was an odd choice at 20 despite the fact Ennis was off the board. It means he was second on their radar at 22 as Masai tried to trade up since he was afraid he will be gone by the time we pick our 37. Now there are some facts and speculations;
* The Kid is terribly raw, skinny and must fill in big time.
* He scored 4.8 ppg in Brazil, people say he played against men... sorry I don't buy it. I have seen 17-20 boys who torched their opponents in Europe. Also, I really don't think the Brazilian league is all that strong. Just the fact that Rafael Ara˙jo plays there is enough... I am pretty sure the NCAA and D-league are better.
Also, the kid is athletic apparently can shoot but his shot is stupid according to Masai. It seems like he can dribble and take the basketball to the rim.
There is very little info about this guy but I suggest we all stop right there as he is NOT going to be the Brazilian KD. Casey compared him to young Rashard Lewis, I guess before he became a grossly overpaid one-dimensional 3 point shooter.
Now I said it before and still feel the same, I don't like the pick for multiple reasons, it's not that I have something against the kid, in fact I know nearly nothing, but I look at the numbers and nothing there makes sense to me.
I guess most of us felt like this is pretty good draft to pick a player than can help out rather sooner than later PG/ SF or even a backup C but it seems like Masai was pretty big on him and he said he picked him at 20 since Ennis was gone and he didn't wanna lose on him. So yeah, my impression is that it was such a reach since a few names that were still available could have helped us next year trying to get better and going deeper than a first round. Uconn's Shabazz Napier comes to mind as a spark plug off the bench especially with the uncertainty surrounding Lowry and GV. Hood and Capela also come to mind. Heck at 20 I also really liked Mitch McGary. To sum it up, I was hoping for someone who is more ready and can blend quickly and help the team out as we really want to of course make the playoffs but not only that, we want to at least win a series, hopefully two.

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Does it change the fact that lots of people compared him to the shitty McGee and thats why he was taken. And McGee was taken 18 and was raw? And that a player that big still sucks? And you know this guys makeup already? And its still not a gamble and any of you know more than any of us about him? Cool story Jebus.

and JM is NOT deandre Jordan!!

and it would not be the first time a player form south america or africa lied about his age and it happens plenty. not saying thats the case here but to dismiss it as impossible is ridiculous.
He was not compared to McGee. It was only said that he had the same wingspan as McGee.

And the lying about his age was a joke reply to a post.

Reality bites.
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He was not compared to McGee. It was only said that he had the same wingspan as McGee.

And the lying about his age was a joke reply to a post.

Reality bites.
google soccer baseball and basketball about lying about age but its possible none the less. they literally should have MRI'ed him first. probabaly did.
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He's likely to play this coming year.
I just can't see it
Are u talking about D-League ?
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I find it ironic that people criticize the selection of BC because he's raw then cite Cappela as an option. Cappela is also a very raw prospect and probably not as talented. The difference is that scouts and TV analysts got to see him on person or YouTube.
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Are u talking about D-League ?
He's playing in the summer league and masai has said he doesn't want to stash him. Get him in amd develop him. Why not? Masai knows a lot more about him than we do.
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I find it ironic that people criticize the selection of BC because he's raw then cite Cappela as an option. Cappela is also a very raw prospect and probably not as talented. The difference is that scouts and TV analysts got to see him on person or YouTube.
If your talking about me I didnt think he was an option but half the board did which it why i said something like "or Capela if you like". He went where he did as a draft and stash pick which is just as applicable here.
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Yes, his salary of $7M would count this year, but he only has one year left and then off the books. To deal Salmons and #37 for Prince and #22 would have been a good deal. Prince is much better than Salmons and the team wouldn't have to overpay on a SF in FA or use the MLE, which would eat into next year's cap. Prince would have also been a good mentor for BC.

The Raps have long been rumoured to be targeting 2015 as the year to make aggressive moves in FA because they are anticipated to have a lot of cap room. So while Prince's salary counts this year, it won't next year since he's an expiring. It makes him a good fit with both the team's short and long-term plans.
he could be the perfect mentor to BC but i think masai weighed that option and still didint want to pay up. i see masai as a smart guy, so as to why he didint want to do a move thats pretty fair for both teams leads me to believe he just didint want to pay prince that money even though its just for 1 year.
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He's playing in the summer league and masai has said he doesn't want to stash him. Get him in amd develop him. Why not? Masai knows a lot more about him than we do.
He will probably be on the roster. Can't see him playing significant minutes, unless he is starting to play like KD when he was 18!
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Masai knows a lot more about him than we do.
No doubt
I can see him developing for a couple of years in the D because he'll get plenty of floor time there...but with the Raps ?...can't see it

And i'm curious...what would people be saying about this guy if the Spurs had taken him ?
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If your talking about me I didnt think he was an option but half the board did which it why i said something like "or Capela if you like". He went where he did as a draft and stash pick which is just as applicable here.
Nope, look at Tommy's post and someone earlier today said the same thing.

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he could be the perfect mentor to BC but i think masai weighed that option and still didint want to pay up. i see masai as a smart guy, so as to why he didint want to do a move thats pretty fair for both teams leads me to believe he just didint want to pay prince that money even though its just for 1 year.
Very true. I also think he may have been too focused on trying to acquire Ennis that he got distracted. Just a hunch.

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I can see him developing for a couple of years in the D because he'll get plenty of floor time there...but with the Raps ?...can't see it

And i'm curious...what would people be saying about this guy if the Spurs had taken him ?
MU said he'll stay with the team and won't go to the D-League. He thinks BC will develop better with the main club, getting to know complex systems, better strength and conditioning programs, better athletes to compete against in practice, etc.
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