Now that we know who the GM is, will Casey be back or gone?

RaptorsFan4Life · 05-31-2013, 06:11 PM

Poll

I think he will be gone as the head coach.

If you guys think he's gone, who do you think should (or will) be brought in to replace him?

Dario · 05-31-2013, 06:14 PM

he'll stay, sadly

**Ball Don't Lie** · 05-31-2013, 06:16 PM

Well if Leiweke is serious about thinking big, we should be like the Clippers and reaching out to JVG/SVG.

But if we're unable to get one of them, I'd look to hire Brian Shaw. I've never been a fan of hiring someone with no head coaching experience, but I think Shaw is capable of coming in and becoming a good head coach immediately from his experience working as Phil Jacksons right hand man, and being coached by him before that. I honestly think he'd turn out like Thibodeau did, after his years as JVGs right hand guy.

Ataf · 05-31-2013, 06:17 PM

It's hard to say, but I think he'd stay..
If we could get Brian Shaw, I'd buy season tickets asap lol... well... prolly not since I'm in st cats, but I'll be going to way more games

Dario · 05-31-2013, 06:19 PM

JVG would be awesome, any of those guys would be awesome hires, but highly unlikely

Windex · 05-31-2013, 07:55 PM

see if Lionel Hollins gets resigned. if he doesn't, make an offer.
then there's Shaw.

VanCity · 05-31-2013, 07:56 PM

I would be all for a non bullshit coach like stan van. I dont think its gonna happen though. Keep pounding the rock for another year. :therock:

DanH · 05-31-2013, 08:16 PM

Doesn't matter - tanking means no big name coach. This team's future coach will be hired a few years from now.

Hopefully.

niggles · 05-31-2013, 08:55 PM

Nate MacMillan. Bye bye Dwane

jeffb · 05-31-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DanH

Doesn't matter - tanking means no big name coach. This team's future coach will be hired a few years from now.

Hopefully.

A year from now. Casey's deal expires and IF we're going to tank why hire a new coach when the current one only has 1yr left?

niggles · 05-31-2013, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

A year from now. Casey's deal expires and IF we're going to tank why hire a new coach when the current one only has 1yr left?

A new coach should be Ujiri's first move. He has to start establishing a new culture from day one. If he decides that Casey can be his long term coach, he'll keep him on. If he decides Casey isn't, he'll cut him loose. He's been around the NBA long enough to make the decision. He doesn't need to keep Casey around for another year to make the decision. Don't think he'll let grass grow under his feet. None of this manana stuff. I don't think he's about tanking. If that was the preferred route, they just would have picked up BC's option for one year only. Anything that BC would have wanted to do would have to have been OK'd by TL, so stupid things would have been stopped in their tracks.

dfunkie1 · 05-31-2013, 09:16 PM

i'm with niggles. the GM should bring in his guys that will be working with his philosophy so they can have a strong relationship and share the same vision on players roles and expectations. casey isn't ujiri's guy, so get rid of him.

LX · 05-31-2013, 09:51 PM

The timing might not be great to get his guy. And Karl might give Casey a good reference worth a year.

Kirby · 05-31-2013, 09:54 PM

If we are en route to tanking, I don't know how Casey will respond to it. He seemed reluctant to tank even with a losing record for the past years, and if he's on his final year I would assume he would want to win and save his job. If he listens to Ujiri reluctantly to go with the tank, he'd be gone regardless since Ujiri would probably want a dif coach. I think it's a lose-lose for Casey.

DanH · 05-31-2013, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirby

If we are en route to tanking, I don't know how Casey will respond to it. He seemed reluctant to tank even with a losing record for the past years, and if he's on his final year I would assume he would want to win and save his job. If he listens to Ujiri reluctantly to go with the tank, he'd be gone regardless since Ujiri would probably want a dif coach. I think it's a lose-lose for Casey.

The key to tanking is to still try to build a winning attitude in how you play - a competitive coach and competitive players are a good thing. It is up to the GM to ensure that the players there to be played are developing, rather than developed enough to generate significant wins.

Kirby · 05-31-2013, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DanH

The key to tanking is to still try to build a winning attitude in how you play - a competitive coach and competitive players are a good thing. It is up to the GM to ensure that the players there to be played are developing, rather than developed enough to generate significant wins.

I mean, the young guys can try. They're going to lose morale eventually.

You're trying to win yet playing to lose. It's not pleasant nor easy.

TORaptor4Ever · 05-31-2013, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ball Don't Lie

Well if Leiweke is serious about thinking big, we should be like the Clippers and reaching out to JVG/SVG.

But if we're unable to get one of them, I'd look to hire Brian Shaw. I've never been a fan of hiring someone with no head coaching experience, but I think Shaw is capable of coming in and becoming a good head coach immediately from his experience working as Phil Jacksons right hand man, and being coached by him before that. I honestly think he'd turn out like Thibodeau did, after his years as JVGs right hand guy.

Agreed. I mentioned Shaw a while back. I think he'll do well.

Gurk · 05-31-2013, 11:12 PM

Fire that motherfucker, especially if we are tanking, he doesn't know how to set a rotation if his life depended on it

MikeToronto · 06-01-2013, 12:21 AM

I don't think Casey is good enough for the team we are hoping will be built. I also don't think he'd be on board with any tanking, overt or otherwise, so I think he won't be back for next season.

**halphbreedballer** · 06-01-2013, 01:00 PM

I want a coach that has won a championship as a head coach.

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05-31-2013, 06:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
Dario Keep it simple Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Vancouver Posts: 9,614 Representing:	he'll stay, sadly

05-31-2013, 06:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ball Don't Lie ... Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,161 Representing:	Well if Leiweke is serious about thinking big, we should be like the Clippers and reaching out to JVG/SVG. But if we're unable to get one of them, I'd look to hire Brian Shaw. I've never been a fan of hiring someone with no head coaching experience, but I think Shaw is capable of coming in and becoming a good head coach immediately from his experience working as Phil Jacksons right hand man, and being coached by him before that. I honestly think he'd turn out like Thibodeau did, after his years as JVGs right hand guy.

05-31-2013, 06:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ataf Has "it" Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Catharines Posts: 1,798 Representing:	It's hard to say, but I think he'd stay.. If we could get Brian Shaw, I'd buy season tickets asap lol... well... prolly not since I'm in st cats, but I'll be going to way more games

05-31-2013, 06:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
Dario Keep it simple Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Vancouver Posts: 9,614 Representing:	JVG would be awesome, any of those guys would be awesome hires, but highly unlikely

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Windex the next dictator of MLSE fresh and clean Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: uʍop ɹǝpun Posts: 22,591 Representing:	see if Lionel Hollins gets resigned. if he doesn't, make an offer. then there's Shaw.

05-31-2013, 07:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
VanCity is pounding Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vancouver Posts: 4,073 Representing:	I would be all for a non bullshit coach like stan van. I dont think its gonna happen though. Keep pounding the rock for another year. :therock:

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DanH sticking to his guns... is stuck to his guns... Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cambridge, ON Posts: 5,303 Representing:	Doesn't matter - tanking means no big name coach. This team's future coach will be hired a few years from now. Hopefully.

05-31-2013, 08:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
niggles Dwaneball. That's how we roll...over OY!! Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Loch Ness Posts: 3,664 Representing:	Nate MacMillan. Bye bye Dwane

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dfunkie1 censored Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5,356 Representing:	i'm with niggles. the GM should bring in his guys that will be working with his philosophy so they can have a strong relationship and share the same vision on players roles and expectations. casey isn't ujiri's guy, so get rid of him.

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LX effin' ineffable In the Paint Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 30,070 Representing:	The timing might not be great to get his guy. And Karl might give Casey a good reference worth a year.

05-31-2013, 09:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
Kirby payin Dwyane Wade Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 6,816 Representing:	If we are en route to tanking, I don't know how Casey will respond to it. He seemed reluctant to tank even with a losing record for the past years, and if he's on his final year I would assume he would want to win and save his job. If he listens to Ujiri reluctantly to go with the tank, he'd be gone regardless since Ujiri would probably want a dif coach. I think it's a lose-lose for Casey.

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Gurk is dead inside you ain't bout that life Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 22,015 Representing:	Fire that motherfucker, especially if we are tanking, he doesn't know how to set a rotation if his life depended on it

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MikeToronto Gam zeh ya'avor The Gatekeeper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 4,073 Representing:	I don't think Casey is good enough for the team we are hoping will be built. I also don't think he'd be on board with any tanking, overt or otherwise, so I think he won't be back for next season.

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halphbreedballer Waiting for DD's 1st in game wind mill Dunk Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: T.O. Posts: 4,879 Representing:	I want a coach that has won a championship as a head coach.