Not much wiggle room for Raptors
Old 02-19-2008, 12:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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As per Grange's write-up today, we likely won't see much activity on the Raptor front come trade deadline time. But as BC alluded too last week, he might try another deal kind of like his Jones for Dixon one from last season.

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The Raptors don't have many expiring deals to offer. Combining Juan Dixon and Darrick Martin in a deal would allow the Raptors to take back a player earning roughly $4-million (all currency U.S.). In other words, another tool for coach Sam Mitchell's toolbox rather than a difference maker.

The Raptors have long needed a rugged, scoring small forward (Ron Artest? Corey Maggette?) and a ball-chasing, floor-running big man. But they haven't added either yet because they sense that it's simply not their time yet.
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I've said it time and time again - we need a guy like Artest, just because he brings everything we need. And simply because we'd be facing Lebron in the first round. Unless we want to be gone in 5-6 games, that deal needs to be made.

Garbajosa, Dixon, Martin and a lottery protected 1st in 2009 for Artest.
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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But they haven't added either yet because they sense that it's simply not their time yet.
This is exactly what everyone needs to keep in my mind. This team is a long way from contending for a title. They aren't going to make a knee-jerk move that will help now, but that will hamper the team two or three years from now when it'll matter the most.
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This is exactly what everyone needs to keep in my mind. This team is a long way from contending for a title. They aren't going to make a knee-jerk move that will help now, but that will hamper the team two or three years from now when it'll matter the most.
Agreed...which ironically makes the Okafor deal make more sense than any of the others proposed to me(aside from the realBS factor). At least you're getting a young talent that fits both short and long term in that deal and he's not a head case that will screw up the good young guys you have now.
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I've said it time and time again - we need a guy like Artest, just because he brings everything we need. And simply because we'd be facing Lebron in the first round. Unless we want to be gone in 5-6 games, that deal needs to be made.

Garbajosa, Dixon, Martin and a lottery protected 1st in 2009 for Artest.
You forgot gun to the head in order to get that deal done...
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I understand it is a process, but do you really want to see the guys done in again in the first round?
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Old 02-19-2008, 04:37 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well, if our franchise player wasnt invisable last year, it was a series we should have won. I agree with ppl saying realistically we arent a contender yet, so to make a band aid move is silly, but im all for long term move to improve.
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Well, if our franchise player wasnt invisable last year, it was a series we should have won. I agree with ppl saying realistically we arent a contender yet, so to make a band aid move is silly, but im all for long term move to improve.
Not counting Bosh's first year in the league, last year's playoff run was basically Bosh's first experience in playoff basketball. To hang it on Bosh for last year's lost to the Nets (who was guarding RJ when he went off?) is just crazy. Hell, I still blame it on Darrick Martin for the loss. Has another cheerleader ever cost the Raptors a game?
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Not counting Bosh's first year in the league, last year's playoff run was basically Bosh's first experience in playoff basketball. To hang it on Bosh for last year's lost to the Nets (who was guarding RJ when he went off?) is just crazy. Hell, I still blame it on Darrick Martin for the loss. Has another cheerleader ever cost the Raptors a game?

The Raps weren't even close to sniffing the playoffs in his first season.
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The Raps weren't even close to sniffing the playoffs in his first season.
You're right...for some reason, I always thought that Bosh's first year was a playoff year. Whooops
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Old 02-19-2008, 05:01 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Hell, I still blame it on Darrick Martin for the loss. Has another cheerleader ever cost the Raptors a game?
That still infuriates me to no end. But I don't think it was the deal breaker. We were bound to lose that series anyways.
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Old 02-19-2008, 05:01 PM   #12 (permalink)
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everyone falls flat on their face the first time the play in the playoffs. EVERYONE. especially when it's a team as a whole that finally makes it after a long time absent like the Raptors did.

That being said, i fully expect the tune to change this year - depending on who we're playing of course.

I would be against an Artest type deal. I don't see Ron as a player who will be here for more than a few seasons even if a trade would be made. He just doesn't seem to have the right mentality to be high on Colangelo's list. Skill wise he does, but just not personality wise.

I'd rather not make a blockbuster move and just keep the nucleus growing.

That being said, Hoopsnation's suggestion is pretty good, but i don't think garbo, Dixon and a pick wouyld get it done.
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Old 02-19-2008, 05:06 PM   #13 (permalink)
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You're right...for some reason, I always thought that Bosh's first year was a playoff year. Whooops
If I remember correctly they were in the hunt until Rose broke his hand.
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