No Raptor Love From the Refs
Old 01-18-2011, 09:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I dont know if this has been beaten to death on here or not. I have been away from the computer for the last lil while.
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This past few weeks i have seen some of the most horrible calls being made in favor of the opposing team. They have been made throughout the whole game but most depressing they have also been made in the final seconds of the game.
Yesterday in particular, Amir Johnson was under the net and had major contact and no call. This was when they were down by 2 points and 20 seconds left.
Its one thing to lose a game due to poor game play. But the raps were playing some good ball these past few games.
Sorry I just had to rant. Anyone else feel the same.
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Old 01-18-2011, 10:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Agreed..and how about the Amir (not) and-one? He was so in the act it was not funny and they gave him two free throws and not the basket...and then took away a free throw??? Come on!!
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Old 01-18-2011, 10:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Just goes to show that the refs had thier heads up their asses all game.
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Old 01-18-2011, 11:35 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The refs are shite.. it's hogwash out there boys, hogwash.
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Old 01-18-2011, 02:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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ladies please take ur panties off and get over it has it really come to this when we are blaming others for the raps loses? even if some games the Raptors had callls against them their are others when they have more calls for them, in the end it all cancels each other out get over it...
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ladies please take ur panties off and get over it has it really come to this when we are blaming others for the raps loses? even if some games the Raptors had callls against them their are others when they have more calls for them, in the end it all cancels each other out get over it...
Did you even watch the game?

How does taking taking an &-one play & making it a 1 shot FT cancel anything out?

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Did you even watch the game?

How does taking taking an &-one play & making it a 1 shot FT cancel anything out?
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Old 01-18-2011, 02:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
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That was just one BS call of a load of them. Anyone see Amir get worked under the basket in the dying seconds and not get the call?
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Old 01-18-2011, 03:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Hey, just wanted to say... I agree with this thread. I would love to see Raptor fans showing up with signs on mass saying "NBA REF'S FIXING GAMES."
Let's be serious it's not just about that last no foul call on Amir, that entire last game they got screwed on calls. Hell if it wasn't for the fact that the REFS had to now go to the replay with that poke out of bounds from Ariza on DeRozen... we wouldn't have even got the ball back.

(i'm not even going to go into that disallowed free throw shiet. But seriously.... I haven't seen that ever called...in 34 years.)

To this I'm starting a new thread... called Raptors fans fight back.
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Old 01-18-2011, 05:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
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The lack of calls has been a consistent issue for years.

I remember the home opener against Cleveland last season, final seconds the ref's made a terrible call and the whole crowd was yelling "BULLSHIT" at the top of their lungs.

The Raptors get no respect. And i'm not sure if its cuz of our players, our coaching or the fact that we are the only Canadian team. but its been a huge problem that has gotten worse over the last 2-3 years i've noticed. I have a feeling it will not improve unless we become a perennial playoff team.
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Old 01-18-2011, 05:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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If anything they should be rougher on the pernial playoff teams. And on the superstars.
Instead of giving them every call, they should be tougher on them.
If lebron cant hit a basket with a lil contact then he should try harder. lol
Meannwhile is someone farts on reggie evans under the net it should be two free throws.

Please dont take this post serious...
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The lack of calls has been a consistent issue for years.
It's gotten much worse as David Stern has institutionalized it. He likes to brag how he turned the NBA profitable again.. he just doesn't get into the specifics, but it's pretty obvious.

Favour the high population centers. Period.

You're from a small, but talented team? Too bad, LA and New York are a bigger market.

All these morons that think gambling has to be involved for their to be intentional bad reffing calls have no idea what they're talking about.

Oh, and when we're talking about important markets, we're talking about American markets.
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Don't blame the refs. That's pathetic
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It's gotten much worse as David Stern has institutionalized it. He likes to brag how he turned the NBA profitable again.. he just doesn't get into the specifics, but it's pretty obvious.

Favour the high population centers. Period.

You're from a small, but talented team? Too bad, LA and New York are a bigger market.

All these morons that think gambling has to be involved for their to be intentional bad reffing calls have no idea what they're talking about.

Oh, and when we're talking about important markets, we're talking about American markets.
+1 I completely agree with your post.

Stern has been obsessing about growing the game globally (europe, asia) and his attitude towards the only non-american team is actually a joke considering what he's been saying to the international press.

People in the US also need to realize that Toronto is a city of 5 Million people... 3 Million if you don't count the periphery of the city, thats bigger than the majority of the NBA's "Big Markets" plus we have a country behind the Raps.... Stern needs to get his head out of his ass.
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+1 I completely agree with your post.

Stern has been obsessing about growing the game globally (europe, asia) and his attitude towards the only non-american team is actually a joke considering what he's been saying to the international press.

People in the US also need to realize that Toronto is a city of 5 Million people... 3 Million if you don't count the periphery of the city, thats bigger than the majority of the NBA's "Big Markets" plus we have a country behind the Raps.... Stern needs to get his head out of his ass.
Yeah, there was a reason why Bosh was voted into the Allstar game every year.
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:16 PM   #16 (permalink)
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you always hear about people saying games are fixed. the one in new orleans the other night sure looked like it. i still don't believe it was fixed (as you don't have to fix rap games because we lose 60% of the time anyways) but man the refs must really like NO or hate the raps as the calls that we didn't get were amazing.
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It's gotten much worse as David Stern has institutionalized it. He likes to brag how he turned the NBA profitable again.. he just doesn't get into the specifics, but it's pretty obvious.

Favour the high population centers. Period.

You're from a small, but talented team? Too bad, LA and New York are a bigger market.

All these morons that think gambling has to be involved for their to be intentional bad reffing calls have no idea what they're talking about.

Oh, and when we're talking about important markets, we're talking about American markets.
Yep. How can we forget atrocities like Kobe elbowing Bibby in the face in the playoffs (personal foul on Bibby) en route to knocking the Kings out about 6 years ago? Or the 20 4th quarter free throws that the Refs needed to give the Lakers in order to win that series?

Or how about the Mavs getting jobbed in the finals against the heat (Dirk should've won a ring - partly it was his fault, but they would've won if it was a fair fight).


Depending on your perspective, the NBA goes anywhere from slightly rigged to WWE-style fixing. If you don't think that the refs "favour" some players and teams, at the very least, you're deceiving yourself.

The Raps have gotten no respect from the refs for YEARS; it's an ongoing trend and a frustrating one, especially for a young team that plays hard.
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How about the Suns getting robbed of a chance when they played San Antonio
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Old 01-20-2011, 12:16 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Yes, coaches bitch to refs all the time in all sports, but only in the NBA do players have so much power as individuals. The league is made to cater to the stars. Its well known. I always hear guys like Jack Armstrong saying things like Demar should be "gaining respect from the refs" `getting the calls"...you don't hear phrases like this in any other league, esp as a form of STRATEGY that even the broadcasters recommend, and always talk about.

nd, I rarely RARELY BLAME a ref for "losing" unless its blatent like the famous Kings-Lakers 02. Since we are a team of "non stars" we don't get the "benefit of the doubt" on calls..but I don't think we should be aiming for that as well. Aim to win with ur players, not with the help of refs. I personally hate it, perhaps one of the reasons why I don't ever think the NBA will be my number 1 sport. I actually see raps (like Derozen) get plenty of calls in games others don't get. In fact, there is so much contact on drives nowadays, almost every play there's a foul. That's just going to make a choppy game with plenty of whistles.
[*]Just an FYI, It IS tough to be a ref to see all the contacts and to see the action. Remember, they are on the court, usually much shorter than the players and hard to see through crowds of ppl in the paint. We have an overview of the whole court because of the TV. I've tried reffing/linesmaning amateur / pick-up / intramural its not easy. I'm surprised that we don't see even MORE biase in the league - I don't think the NBA fixes games of winner/loser...but I do feel stuff like covering lines, making sure refs feeling threatened, refs catering to underdogs, losing teams to keep the game close for more excitment, stuff like that.
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