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Old 03-15-2011, 10:24 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I haven't seen much of Kyrie actually playing, so I've been basing my opinion on what the "experts" have to say about him. NBADraft.net has his best case scenario as a CP3 lite, and his worst case is a Michael Conley type player. So I'm guessing that if we don't get that top pick, we can say good-bye to Kyrie.
When that is your best/worst case scenario that is pretty good. lol

I watch Kyrie in a few games at Duke when he played and he played great. The talent is there and like you said the "experts" love him.
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Old 03-15-2011, 10:27 PM   #42 (permalink)
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It's not set in stone until the lottery happens. That 5th spot is just a spot for weighting odds to win the lottery.

Click the red button 10 times at ESPN and get a feel for how many different things can happen.....

ESPN - 2011 NBA Lottery Mock Draft
I clicked it about 20 times, only once did I ever end up seeing us higher than 4th and it was always Kanter (no thanks) and once it was Derek Williams (who id be fine with) when we ended up 2nd pick :P
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Old 03-15-2011, 10:28 PM   #43 (permalink)
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we could easily get a top 3 pick. and barnes is projected 12th by draftexpress. generally speaking he's projected to be 6-10th.
Which is crazy. By time draft day comes Barnes will most likely be a top 3 picks. According to most scouts loved him even when he struggle at the start of the year and by now they have to love him anymore.

Barnes has a huge chance to really sell himself with the tourney starting.
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Old 03-15-2011, 11:40 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I agree there. And if not those two, then Kemba Walker would be next on my list. One of those three would make me pretty happy. And T. Jones wouldn't be bad either as a SF.
Kemba Walker has alot to prove. He'll probably get drafted around the same time DeRozan was, unless he has a big finish to NCAA basketball.
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Old 03-15-2011, 11:56 PM   #45 (permalink)
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see what happens after the tournament and after some of the draft workouts, that usually changes a lot of the rankings
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Old 03-16-2011, 01:10 AM   #46 (permalink)
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UPDATE:

According to Coach K Kyrie Irving could play on Friday for Duke. He practice with Duke and now they will wait and see how his toe reacts before they play him.
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Old 03-16-2011, 02:21 AM   #47 (permalink)
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I like Irving and Sullinger a lot more than Barnes, but at least Barnes is a freshman and has lots of potential. He's shooting a shitty 42% clip, and his team has gotten steamrolled by Duke twice this year, but he's definitely a solid looking player.
Stats are deceiving, he's really come along nicely as the year went on...
and only the loss in the ACC tourney to Duke was a bad beat, the other game was anybodys game and on Duke's home court...

Oh yea, Irving and Sullinger are freshmen as well.
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Old 03-16-2011, 03:03 AM   #48 (permalink)
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We don't need another PF. I say get Irving, Walker or Fredette as we need to sure sure up that PG spot. JJ is showing a lot of potential.
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Old 03-16-2011, 03:22 AM   #49 (permalink)
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i want Jimmer!
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Old 03-16-2011, 03:26 AM   #50 (permalink)
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I wouldnt mind him, Barnes at the 3 would be great but then we would have a jam at the 2/3 spot. If we don't get Irving, the Barnes it is. There doesn't seem to be a lot of talented C's out there anyway.
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Old 03-16-2011, 07:49 AM   #51 (permalink)
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How do you think Jimmer's skills will translate to the NBA?
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:03 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Cavaliers priorities in draft (CAVS has 2 lottery picks) :
1. Kyrie Irving
2. Harrison Barnes
3. Jonas Valančiūnas

And Freddete? Pleasy. I wish him best but come on. First, he is undersized shooting guard. Second, he is bad defender. He is not suitable for the NBA, remember Casey Jacobsen? Third, he is 3 years older than Barnes, Irving, Jonas, Enes... ...
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:00 PM   #53 (permalink)
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I think somebody will take Jimmer within the first 15, but top5 is really pushing it.
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:31 PM   #54 (permalink)
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I think somebody will take Jimmer within the first 15, but top5 is really pushing it.
I think Utah takes him with their top 10 pick.
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Old 03-16-2011, 01:03 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Cavaliers priorities in draft (CAVS has 2 lottery picks) :
1. Kyrie Irving
2. Harrison Barnes
3. Jonas Valančiūnas

And Freddete? Pleasy. I wish him best but come on. First, he is undersized shooting guard. Second, he is bad defender. He is not suitable for the NBA, remember Casey Jacobsen? Third, he is 3 years older than Barnes, Irving, Jonas, Enes... ...
Fredette isn't a SG, he's a PG. His team is so shit he has to pretty much do everything. With better teammates around him he'd show his passing ability.

BTW majority of the games he has 5+ assists which is a good when your teammates are trash.

As for defending Fredette is an extremely hard worker, he will get better at defending in the NBA. He will be the steal of the draft if he falls below 10.
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Fredette isn't a SG, he's a PG. His team is so shit he has to pretty much do everything. With better teammates around him he'd show his passing ability.

BTW majority of the games he has 5+ assists which is a good when your teammates are trash.

As for defending Fredette is an extremely hard worker, he will get better at defending in the NBA. He will be the steal of the draft if he falls below 10.
Isn't he in a weaker conference? How has he done against top teams?
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Old 03-16-2011, 01:20 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Ed Davis on Harrison Barnes:

“Harrison is a legit 6-foot-8 player, someone I’ve played against in pick-up ball....I remember talking to my old teammates and all they kept talking about was how Harrison was always in the gym, always trying to work on his game."

The kid has the good work ethic. The Raptors need to move into the top 3. I think Barnes and Irving won't available after the top 3.
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Old 03-16-2011, 01:54 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Isn't he in a weaker conference? How has he done against top teams?
If you want to take San Diego as a top team (and they are) he's torched them both times they've played.

Jimmer is a player. In every other year he'd be a late 1st early 2nd pick that becomes something. This year he'll be drafted too high cause the class is awful.

I'd gamble on him with a mid-tier pick (if available). He's all offense and he could be a similar player to a Reddick.
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Old 03-16-2011, 04:25 PM   #59 (permalink)
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How do you think Jimmer's skills will translate to the NBA?
How many players from BYU would you draft with a top 10 pick? Zero. How mnay BYU players even make the NBA, let alone a short skinny white point guard from BYU. This draft is truly horriible.
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Old 03-16-2011, 04:34 PM   #60 (permalink)
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i dont think people realize how good Andrea Bargnani is, just because he played like shit for 3 years, this guy does something for our offense that allow us to compete in every game

just look at the wins we collected this year, I think it has to do with hte age of the overall roster than Andrea Bargnani being a soft big (the losing), another draft pick more experience this roster will turn it around, it needs patience, plus the fact that Derozan and Bargnani can both get there games off and not disrupt the other is a great sign, thats something Bosh and Bargs could never do together consistently

Andrea is easily the best player on the team, and every chance a fan gets on this site throw him in a trade they do it,

this team would be worse off,

and look ath the nets right now, winning 5 straight, wonder why thats happening, Deron Williams and Brook Lopez, well Bargnani is better than Lopez and rebounds better while playing from the perimeter while Lopez is a low post big, before Williams joined the team Bargnani would own lopez and the nets

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