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Old 06-30-2012, 11:51 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Garnett's contract isn't going to help thing imo.


I think Nash is worth more than KG who's body is fucked, even taking into consideration the age difference. Then you take into consideration what effect he'd have on this city and the oranization monitarily speaking......$$$


Nash has missed 37 games in the past 11 seasons.

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Old 06-30-2012, 11:57 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Garnett's contract isn't going to help thing imo.


I think Nash is worth more than KG who's body is fucked, even taking into consideration the age difference. Then you take into consideration what effect he'd have on this city and the oranization monitarily speaking......$$$


Nash has missed 37 games in the past 11 seasons.
Garnett is God! Boston would be fighting for championship, that's why it makes sense.
Nash would get exploited every possession, because once you shrugged him off, who's waiting there with an open mouth if not our own complex player.
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Old 06-30-2012, 12:01 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Garnett is God! Boston would be fighting for championship, that's why it makes sense.
Nash would get exploited every possession, because once you shrugged him off, who's waiting there with an open mouth if not our own complex player.
First of all Boston imo won't be a championship contender next season. That being said, he's still not worth that money, not more so than Nash any way you slice. I don't care where the respective teams are.
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First of all Boston imo won't be a championship contender next season. That being said, he's still not worth that money, not more so than Nash any way you slice. I don't care where the respective teams are.
The difference is "worth that money" and "makes sense to pay that money anyway"
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Old 06-30-2012, 12:21 PM   #45 (permalink)
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The difference is "worth that money" and "makes sense to pay that money anyway"
To me it makes more sense for Toronto to pay Nash based on return financially, wins and otherwise (ie: excitement in this city) than Boston paying Garnett just based on his health alone. At least when it comes to the term. Nash brings us more wins, especially if another solid player is added which is the goal. Does re-signing Garnett take them further than where they went last season, is there a good chance they take a step back even with KG? My answer to that last question is yes.
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Old 06-30-2012, 12:32 PM   #46 (permalink)
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First of all Boston imo won't be a championship contender next season. That being said, he's still not worth that money, not more so than Nash any way you slice. I don't care where the respective teams are.
Apples and oranges isn't it? When healthy KG is a beast patrolling the paint and lets be honest, most players are scared of KG - he dominates and he's effect on other team mates is noticeable. Your right about Nash, his effect on the offensive end is ridiculous - as much as an impact as KG's defense - and will probably get a similar contract.

If the supposed salary is that high, what team would challenge the Raps pursuit? Nets and Dallas are both after Dwill, Bobcats already has theirs, so does Houston, Pheonix has his rights but it doesn't really matter as they are under the cap and seem to be going in another direction (though Nash mentoring Marshall would be brilliant - something I would have loved to see here). I think Nash's 3 teams are Pheonix, Dallas, Raps - in that order too. I think we can pare it down as I believe Dwill is going to Dallas so that leaves 2 teams with the money. So what does Nash do - if the Suns are going in another direction, as some say with Marshall, it shouldnt matter as they still need Nash. The Suns are far under the cap, if they bring in some talent (like Gordon whom they are pursuing) Nash may choose to resign and get 12-14 mil for a couple years. I actually think after reading what Nash has said in the article is that the Suns are his first choice and is leveraging the Raps pursuit for more, as the Suns are trying to keep it down.

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Old 06-30-2012, 12:33 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Here's what I dont get with raps fans, what is the difference between signing a guy, a young guy who is pretty good for three years only to have him bolt when its time to re-up, and signing a two time MVP Vet who brings a ton of intangibles, is A BETTER PLAYER, and likely gets you more success? Either way you lose both guys after three years.

it isnt your money, and trust, the MLSE has lots. it doesn't hurt you three years down the road because guess what, when he leaves you have 12 million off your cap to sign some young kid that FOR ONCE, another team developed...say Lillard or someone.

Do you not see that this is Toronto finally having built properly, and actually operating like the teams that routinely clean our clocks? Now WE get the top ranked FA of the offseason, we get the star, and the NBATV games, and the TNT games. Our players get the hype and exposure, our plyers WANNA STAY, other players see this and WANNA COME.

You guys, you're good guys but you see things from the most minute scope sometimes. its more than PPG and your own perceived worries about Blow bys. Its about your favourite franchise take three years to elevate its status on and OFF the court. With a fantastic guy, a crowd fav....shit this guys got more cheers than Bosh when Phoenix came here. Its about making a story....and honestly, with the guys we have, its about winning a lot of game, more than you think.

Steve Nash to Toronto has a ratio of 5:1 good to bad as far as measuring its worth to this team, and franchise. This ridiculous crap a few writers (very few) and some of the posters here are wrting about Nash to toronto handcuffing this team has to stop. Its ilogical when you look at it from a larger scope. Steve Nash is what this team needs right now, now is the time. I think you should ALL hope he actually signs here.
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Old 06-30-2012, 12:39 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Yikes..12 million?
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This franchise started off by drafting a PG. We are cursed and it won't be lifted until we draft a starting point guard again.
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This franchise started off by drafting a PG. We are cursed and it won't be lifted until we draft a starting point guard again.
God don't start spreading that, it'll catch on like wildfire
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This franchise started off by drafting a PG. We are cursed and it won't be lifted until we draft a starting point guard again.
Because drafting that PG did wonders for us, right?
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Even though I sometimes consider myself as such, your reverence is nonetheless refreshing.

On a more serious note, I was kidding... somewhat...
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:10 PM   #53 (permalink)
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There's no guarantees Nash won't have a next season like Rip's last. Believe me, it will take a lot more than Nash to get TO some TV time. Nash in Canada is great, but what is it to the Americans?
If you build around one star, then you can expect him bolting in three years. If you grow the team organically you've only to look forward to.
Compare the feeling of Lakers and Sixers in the last playoffs!
And we'll be far from Lakers with Nash here.
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Even though I sometimes consider myself as such, your reverence is nonetheless refreshing.

On a more serious note, I was kidding... somewhat...
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Personally I'm more for the "number 4" curse. Quincy Acy is the saviour!
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:12 PM   #55 (permalink)
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i heard that deron williams is going to stay in brooklyn its close to being a lock and howard will join the following year

so to me the real threat is dallas, dallas could offer nash some real dollars

it would be kind of funny if dallas offers him a good contract after they refused to pay him 7 years ago
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I would go as far as offering Nash a 4th year at 10Mil but have it be a non garanteed/not even partially, team option. If he does great for 3 season maybe we pick up the option, if not no obligation. Nothing for us to lose, he'd have more to gain.
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:27 PM   #57 (permalink)
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I see him going to Dallas. I hope BC has a plan B.
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:32 PM   #58 (permalink)
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I see him going to Dallas. I hope BC has a plan B.
I hope BC won't so chances he'll be fired will hugely rise.
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Old 06-30-2012, 01:39 PM   #60 (permalink)
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I see him going to Dallas. I hope BC has a plan B.
Yeah, going into his final contract year with capspace and after planning for this for a year or more......dude he's got plan A, B, C, D, E.

Ok maybe not E. lol
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