Naming the top 3 raptors you want gone in order and why?
Old 04-13-2011, 02:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
"We were making progress, until Garnett [expletive] everything up"

Senior Member
 
forme123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 563
Representing:
Default Naming the top 3 raptors you want gone in order and why?

here is mine in order:

1) Jose Calderon - huge contract, reached his peak, cant stand his defense and his lack of aggressiveness on the offensive end. plus his shooting, which is sopposed to be the biggest weapon, has degressed imo in recent years. also extremely injury prone. and since the team is rebuilding, he isnt necessary for the process. whether u like bayless or not, i think hes shown the ability to run the team as a starting point guard for now (based off his stats and efficiency as a starter this year), or hopefully irving if we somehow manage to draft him....only if getting rid of him wasn't easier said than done

2) Sonny Weems - simple. he chucks too much and isnt a good enough shooter to do so. Now complains about his role and lack of minutes. like cmon, i think he allowed last season to get to his head and assumes hes a legitimate nba player. imo, hes still gotta prove his worth. needs to play smarter and way more consistent. plus there are players such as derozan, barbosa, arguably bayless (can play sg, occasionaly sonny does too) who play more efficient and effectively or have more upside than him. therefore, we are redundant at that position and he is the weakest link imo. he is easily replacable via free agency

3) Alexis Ajinca - pure scrub. plays too much like a wannabe bargs, except cant shoot worth shit and fails to live up to his potential as a defensive presence with length. very passive player as well. in the little playng time he gets, he annoys me deeply. can see why dallas got rid of him. i know his contract his small, but even so he is just a waste of space.

agree or disagree with my order and decisions or whatever, thats great. either suggest your own top 3 or own the shit outta my decisions lol. either way....discuss
forme123 is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 02:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
adoring his baby girl.

Senior Member
 
Sick, Wicked and Nasty!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Canada eh?
Posts: 3,288
Representing:
Default

1 - Jose: I've gone over this enough already
2 - Jay: In all the recent years of defensive ineptitude he is the only constant. He can't get his players to execute consistently.
3 - Alabi: Not NBA level talent.
Sick, Wicked and Nasty! is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 03:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
Exalted

Senior Member
 
DDUnreal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,340
Representing:
Default

1.Jose: for all the same reasons
2.Bargnani: because he I am sick of the maybes & ifs
3.Ajinca: His game is too similar too Bargs. I don't find it appealing having a C that can stretch the defence and not play D himself.
DDUnreal is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 03:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
.

Senior Member
 
carp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 11,492
Representing:
Default

Amir or Ed
Ajinca
Weems
carp is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 03:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
Raptors for life.

Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 126
Representing:
Default

1. Bargnani; I'm a firm believer that your center has to be an anchor on defence. Lane intimidation, communication, switching, weakside help and just overall defensive capabilities are all things Bargnani doesn't have.

2. Jose; I'm a fan, and he plays his heart out but he just doesn't have the defensive presence you need from your PG. He can shoot but that has declined and I'm just not sure he's a PG that can take us to the next level in the future. Plus we're a rebuilding team and he doesn't fit into the equation.

3. Ajinca or Alabi; They're younger, and inexperienced players but I haven't seen anything I want to keep around from watching them. We already have a jam for bigs at this time (FA aside) and they're just scrubs.

Ps. I would put Jay but I don't want him gone, I just want him as an assistant coach. Seeing as how that's not likely with his salary, I say we keep him because I don't put the blame squarely on his shoulders for the terrible D this team has had.
IGetAir is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 03:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
hoping raps find pride soon

Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 107
Representing:
Default

Bargs - because he is the anchor keeping us stopped in the sea of shit

Calderon - because he is the captain of the ship that's currently stalled in the sea of shit

Triano - sorry jay you just suck but I love you for trying your best lol time we got a coach who isn't a rookie, cheap or over the hill
weswo is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 03:31 PM   #7 (permalink)
jonas smellandchewthis

Senior Member
 
thought's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,695
Representing:
Default

1) Bargnani

2) Calderon

3) Amir - don't necessarily want him to go but I'd prefer to trade him in order to address a need
thought is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 03:39 PM   #8 (permalink)
hoping raps find pride soon

Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 107
Representing:
Default

Ps. Sam Mitchell as fired for a few reasons one being because he wouldn't give Bargs minutes ..yeah how's that working for us...I still question BC on that one ..no patience for him but has given Bargs waaaay to much. Trade Bargs while he's a the top of his game and that's not saying anything lol
weswo is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 03:39 PM   #9 (permalink)
I believe in Masai!

giant steps

 
'trane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 16,594
Representing:
Default

calderon - expensive, useless going forward (in comparison to cost), can't defend, totally unnecessary except as a $10 mil mentor.

bargnani - i still think he can be an excellent nba player, but we need to move in another direction. time to set the tone of this team, and it should be different than the one he sets. i'd only get rid of him for something decent in return, though, not just to get rid of him.

barbosa - offensive black hole. too small to adequately defend position. i hope he declines his option hoping to lock into something before the new cba.

impossible but would want him gone:
kleiza - redundant and not effective in terms of the way we want to play. he's injured, so this is a pipe dream.

i don't think anyone else really needs to go. we just need better players around many of the guys we already have. this will be a long-ish rebuild. i expect to be terrible again next year.
'trane is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 03:51 PM   #10 (permalink)
is praying Ross makes us forget Drummomd so people stop whining

Senior Member
 
jeffb's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: YO MAMMA
Posts: 73,963
Representing:
Default

Jose- Bad defensively, too safe/passive, injury prone, high salary

Bargnani- Bad defensively, bad rebounder, Lazy, inconsistent shooter

Weems- Chucker, thinks he's Jordan, redundant

Last edited by jeffb; 04-13-2011 at 03:54 PM.
jeffb is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 05:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
LX
present minded

In the Paint


 
LX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Toronto
Posts: 27,938
Representing:
Default

Just want to see Bargnani gone. I would expect others to go as well, but I don't have any preferences. I wouldn't mind Ajinca staying as a guy deep on the bench. He's got size. He's cheap. And he could eventually take on a Rasho-type role when needed.
LX is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 05:14 PM   #12 (permalink)
all right

Member
 
sixel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Montreal
Posts: 268
Representing:
Default

1:I want kleiza gone has soon has we can
this guy is a black hole in offense and he sucks defensively

2:Bargnani:sucks way to much in defense
gets too much touches in offense

3:Ajinca: pure scrub
sixel is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 05:22 PM   #13 (permalink)
back

Senior Member
 
DuCa00795's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: The Maratimes
Posts: 3,121
Representing:
Default

Kleiza
Weems
Evans
DuCa00795 is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 05:31 PM   #14 (permalink)
Sick, Wicked, and Nasty!

Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 3,223
Representing:
Default

1) Weems - can't shoot but shoots too much, shot has no range but thinks he can shoot 3s, cannot control his dribble and turns the ball over off his foot about half the time he controls it for more than 2 seconds, plays no defense, does not rebound well, does not pass at all, game is not expanding in any way but regressing overall, his friendship with demar is taking away from demar's personal development

2) Jose - his game has plateaued or worst regressed, shot is not as good and driving layup is rare, still can't really run a team without getting the plays from the coach, but has improved it slightly so its not every play from the coach, defense is still almost non-existent, can't seem to stay healthy consistently and the contract value is only growing each year

3) Bargnani - his offense is good enough for me, but i just can't enjoy watching a big man just play an outside game, defense and rebounding are a 1 out of 10 making his offensive contributions completely negated by his defensive liability, can't seem to stay healthy enough all season, if we truly believe that ed davis and amir are part of the core and we want to pick up another big then there's just too many bigs on the roster, his contract can be used to get other useful players to fit around demar if he is our "franchise" guy

other guys that people are naming like Ajinca don't bother me because they're non-factors overall, they are bench players that on a regular basis would get no playing time or be on the inactive list anyways
Admiral is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 05:51 PM   #15 (permalink)
"Fake All-Star"

Senior Member
 
TORaptor4Ever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 16,377
Representing:
Default

1) Bargs

2) Jose

3) Kleiza

All 3 are making way too much money when compared to their actual production on the floor (IMO)... and none of them are great defenders.

The euro-experiment is over. Time to clear them out and give their minutes to guys who want to play on both ends of the floor.

Surprised at all the hate for Weems given that he hardly makes anything at all. I'd take the opportunity to low-ball him into a 3-yr contract worth $5M or something and see if he bites. When he's under control he's still capable of doing some nice things. He's more versatile than Wright who is like a perimeter-version of Reggie Evans (no offense to speak of).

Last edited by TORaptor4Ever; 04-13-2011 at 05:53 PM.
TORaptor4Ever is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 05:58 PM   #16 (permalink)
making funny and strange dark trade in his mind !!!

Senior Member
 
Bankiz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,366
Representing:
Default

1 Bargs : tired of him and his "not a big deal"
2. jose because we need to make toom for bayless and a potentiel high pick pg.
3. weems + wright : make two sign and trade for them or just let them go. if possible do the same for kleiza (ut i don't think that even possible)
Bankiz is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 06:02 PM   #17 (permalink)
is pounding the rock!

Senior Member
 
Scully's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 872
Representing:
Default

Bargs
Triano
Josie

None of them know how to win. It make me sick every time I see that we are paying these chumps 10 million a year. And Triano is a Wank.

Weems, Ajinca, Evans are already gone. Dorsey and Alabi are a dime a dozen.
Scully is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 06:08 PM   #18 (permalink)
is pounding the rock!

Senior Member
 
highonpsi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 7,023
Representing:
Default

Blow up the entire team. Start fresh with an expansion draft.
highonpsi is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 06:56 PM   #19 (permalink)
raps are back!

Senior Member
 
ha123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 562
Representing:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by carp View Post
Amir or Ed
Ajinca
Weems
I am curious to know why you want Amir or Ed out.

Anyway... for me I only have two...

Bargnani- We won't be good on defence and rebounding if he is starting no matter who we put beside him. I would love for him to come off the bench as a sixth man but that ain't happening.

Ajinca- The guy is a jump shooter. We don't need any more jumpshooting big men. I don't see any upside from him at all. I would rather have Dorsey take his minutes.

EDIT: Kleiza is another guy i want gone next season. I would rather have JJ start over him and he shoots way too much.

Last edited by ha123; 04-13-2011 at 10:54 PM.
ha123 is offline   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2011, 07:16 PM   #20 (permalink)
playoffs please dont end

FTMFW
 
Shifty.py's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 3,614
Representing:
Default

1) Triano
2) Bargnani
3) Bayless
Shifty.py is online now   Boss Key Wife Key Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright RaptorsForum.com 2005-2011

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24