MikeToronto

I am pretty sure that at some point very soon, Knicks will start to seriously try to unload Amare. And the person they will most likely turn to first is the guy who has drafted him - BC. Someone has already mentioned in one of the threads that Bargnani would look really good in NY as a second option to Melo (and I agree) - I just hope BC remembers just how fragile Amare is at this point in his career and how truly risky that uninsurable contract is.

LKeet6

yep, i would't like a trade for stoud at all. in theory what would it take? more than just Bargs i would guess.

Grizz

Amare is almost untradable. I think the only way it happens is like the Arenas deal, where it's one awful deal for another. I don't think even BC would do that, nor do we have an applicable contract.

Only realistic things I've heard is Detroit for some crap platter of Ben Gordon or Charlie V.

MikeToronto

Yep. I am just a bit worried that BC might feel compelled to go for a "big splash" - in which case he has to remember that a large enough turd makes that sound as well.

Ball Don't Lie

Nobody is stupid enough to trade for Amares contract. Not even BC.

MikeToronto

A good read on the subject of Amare's "future" in NY: NBA playoffs -- New York Knicks' Amare Stoudemire-Carmelo Anthony pairing not working - ESPN

Ball Don't Lie

The only people that can make Amare and Melo work is Steve Nash and Chris Paul because of their genius and unselfishness.

I dont know why NY thought itd work in the first place. Both are at their best operating on the same area of the court(elbow area) and both hold the ball. In a day where the zone is used in some way every possession to shrink the court, there's no way the spacing was ever going to be good nor the chemistry. Just another bad move by NY and theyre going to be on the treadmill for a long time now being stuck with both of them. Its too bad too, because Amare was awesome last year.

Windex

yup. we're trading for Amare and signing Nash.

jeffb

Sign Nash, Barbosa and trade for Amare

Hell, Maybe we can also get the Matrix back here.


Stoudamire is owed 3yrs/64Mil


If BC did go after him even i'd call for his head.

Ball Don't Lie

jeffb

coach Dee-Antoni

moremilk

why would we even consider him, Bargnani is better right now, is cheaper, younger and without major injury concerns ...

MikeToronto

I don't think anyone here advocates even considering Amare.

Bill Haverchuck

Stoudemire + Shumpert to Philly

Turner +Brand to New York

It could appeal to each team for different reasons...but will prob never happen.

MikeToronto

Turner would be great for NY. Brand's contract ends after next season. Done!

Except that Phily would never do this deal.

jeffb

Yeah, they've been trying to unload Brand's massive deal the last couple years and haven't been able to, they aren't going to unload it now when it is going to finally expire next season for a 3yr/64Mil contract. They'd be stupid if they did.

Bill Haverchuck

I think it's less likely that Philly does it, but I think it would depend on what other upgrades are availabe through trades. They have to do something with their frontcourt if they want to go to the next level, and that's why I think it might be a better fit than for other teams.

Adding Stoudemire is just two extra years over Brand's current deal. I think Amare would look good running the PnR with Iguodala.

Shumpert is a very solid defender, so he further bolsters Philly's D. He's more than a throw in.

MikeToronto

Noone knows how good Shumpert will be after ACL-meniscus surgery. These injuries are tough to come back from for the guards.

Bill Haverchuck

That's true.

I still think the Amare who played for the Knicks before the Anthony trade would be very valuable to Philly. If I'm the 76ers GM, it comes down to whether I could get better front court upgrades elsewhere. I'm not sure they can.

jeffb

This, plus he's played one season. This reminds me of the whole Landy Fields situation. After last season people were fawning over him, now those same people scoff at the mention of him being here. Whatever, not sold yet on Shumpert.