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MikeToronto 05-02-2012 01:02 PM

My big worry
 
I am pretty sure that at some point very soon, Knicks will start to seriously try to unload Amare. And the person they will most likely turn to first is the guy who has drafted him - BC. Someone has already mentioned in one of the threads that Bargnani would look really good in NY as a second option to Melo (and I agree) - I just hope BC remembers just how fragile Amare is at this point in his career and how truly risky that uninsurable contract is.

LKeet6 05-02-2012 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeToronto (Post 640849)
I am pretty sure that at some point very soon, Knicks will start to seriously try to unload Amare. And the person they will most likely turn to first is the guy who has drafted him - BC. Someone has already mentioned in one of the threads that Bargnani would look really good in NY as a second option to Melo (and I agree) - I just hope BC remembers just how fragile Amare is at this point in his career and how truly risky that uninsurable contract is.

yep, i would't like a trade for stoud at all. in theory what would it take? more than just bargs i would guess.

Grizz 05-02-2012 01:08 PM

Amare is almost untradable. I think the only way it happens is like the Arenas deal, where it's one awful deal for another. I don't think even BC would do that, nor do we have an applicable contract.

Only realistic things I've heard is Detroit for some crap platter of Ben Gordon or Charlie V.

MikeToronto 05-02-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Grizz (Post 640851)
Amare is almost untradable. I think the only way it happens is like the Arenas deal, where it's one awful deal for another. I don't think even BC would do that, nor do we have an applicable contract.

Only realistic things I've heard is Detroit for some crap platter of Ben Gordon or Charlie V.

Yep. I am just a bit worried that BC might feel compelled to go for a "big splash" - in which case he has to remember that a large enough turd makes that sound as well. ;)

Ball Don't Lie 05-02-2012 01:21 PM

Nobody is stupid enough to trade for Amares contract. Not even BC.

MikeToronto 05-02-2012 01:21 PM

A good read on the subject of Amare's "future" in NY: NBA playoffs -- New York Knicks' Amare Stoudemire-Carmelo Anthony pairing not working - ESPN

Ball Don't Lie 05-02-2012 01:42 PM

The only people that can make Amare and Melo work is Steve Nash and Chris Paul because of their genius and unselfishness.

I dont know why NY thought itd work in the first place. Both are at their best operating on the same area of the court(elbow area) and both hold the ball. In a day where the zone is used in some way every possession to shrink the court, there's no way the spacing was ever going to be good nor the chemistry. Just another bad move by NY and theyre going to be on the treadmill for a long time now being stuck with both of them. Its too bad too, because Amare was awesome last year.

Windex 05-02-2012 01:44 PM

yup. we're trading for Amare and signing Nash.

jeffb 05-02-2012 01:45 PM

Sign Nash, Barbosa and trade for Amare :roflmao:

Hell, Maybe we can also get the Matrix back here.


Stoudamire is owed 3yrs/64Mil :haha:


If BC did go after him even i'd call for his head.

Ball Don't Lie 05-02-2012 02:11 PM


jeffb 05-02-2012 02:14 PM

coach Dee-Antoni :roflmao:

moremilk 05-02-2012 02:32 PM

why would we even consider him, bargnani is better right now, is cheaper, younger and without major injury concerns ...

MikeToronto 05-02-2012 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by moremilk (Post 640869)
why would we even consider him, bargnani is better right now, is cheaper, younger and without major injury concerns ...

I don't think anyone here advocates even considering Amare.

Bill Haverchuck 05-02-2012 02:49 PM

Stoudemire + Shumpert to Philly

Turner +Brand to New York

It could appeal to each team for different reasons...but will prob never happen.

MikeToronto 05-02-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Haverchuck (Post 640879)
Stoudemire + Shumpert to Philly

Turner +Brand to New York

It could appeal to each team for different reasons...but will prob never happen.

Turner would be great for NY. Brand's contract ends after next season. Done!

Except that Phily would never do this deal.

jeffb 05-02-2012 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeToronto (Post 640880)
Turner would be great for NY. Brand's contract ends after next season. Done!

Except that Phily would never do this deal.

Yeah, they've been trying to unload Brand's massive deal the last couple years and haven't been able to, they aren't going to unload it now when it is going to finally expire next season for a 3yr/64Mil contract. They'd be stupid if they did.

Bill Haverchuck 05-02-2012 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeToronto (Post 640880)
Turner would be great for NY. Brand's contract ends after next season. Done!

Except that Phily would never do this deal.

I think it's less likely that Philly does it, but I think it would depend on what other upgrades are availabe through trades. They have to do something with their frontcourt if they want to go to the next level, and that's why I think it might be a better fit than for other teams.

Adding Stoudemire is just two extra years over Brand's current deal. I think Amare would look good running the PnR with Iguodala.

Shumpert is a very solid defender, so he further bolsters Philly's D. He's more than a throw in.

MikeToronto 05-02-2012 04:03 PM

Noone knows how good Shumpert will be after ACL-meniscus surgery. These injuries are tough to come back from for the guards.

Bill Haverchuck 05-02-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeToronto (Post 640898)
Noone knows how good Shumpert will be after ACL-meniscus surgery. These injuries are tough to come back from for the guards.

That's true.

I still think the Amare who played for the Knicks before the Anthony trade would be very valuable to Philly. If I'm the 76ers GM, it comes down to whether I could get better front court upgrades elsewhere. I'm not sure they can.

jeffb 05-02-2012 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeToronto (Post 640898)
Noone knows how good Shumpert will be after ACL-meniscus surgery. These injuries are tough to come back from for the guards.

This, plus he's played one season. This reminds me of the whole Landy Fields situation. After last season people were fawning over him, now those same people scoff at the mention of him being here. Whatever, not sold yet on Shumpert.


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