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A 29 54.72%
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C 5 9.43%
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Old 06-25-2010, 09:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default the morning after - how do you rate the raptors draft night?

ed davis and solomon alabi added to the roster. two bigs that many projected to go higher than they did. not what most people were expecting, but what does this mean? how do you rate the moves brian colangelo made in the 2010 draft?
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Old 06-25-2010, 09:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Lane intimidation, rebounding and D needed to be addressed and it was.
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An easy A
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Old 06-25-2010, 09:44 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I thought it was an A, but could have been an A+.

I really think they could have done something to grab another second round pick.

Love the Alabi pick, think that is about as good as it gets, can't believe he fell to #50.

Really though, as Ebanks fell through the second round, we should have made a play for him, he was a STEAL for the Lakers.

Ed Davis is good, tremendous potentential, I'm a little concerned because he was unable to lead a very mediocre UNC team when it was his turn to be "the man" but overall the pick makes sense.

I think Patrick Patterson made more sense as an all round player, in a few years we might look back and wish we'd have picked him.

Overall though good draft, a few more moves need to be made to make this team a contender though for sure. So much free agent talent, hopefully we can lure some of it here.
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Easy A.

Took the BPA at pick #13 in Ed Davis. Then traded for a first round talent in Alabi for a future 2nd + little bit of cash.

Nice draft for the Raptors.
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Old 06-25-2010, 09:48 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I think he did the best he could with where he was and what we had. People always demand a trade to move up, yet, there are 29 other teams dong the same thing, it isn't easy.

Now here's my thing though, I think the draft, outside of picks 1-8, is a massive gamble anyhow. You don't know who will be there, and when you get these kids, it's impossible to always know if they will even see 5 mins in their lifetimes in the NBA past their rookie year.

You just don't know.

So, what CAN'T you teach? Can't teach size. Can't teach athletic.

Where I see it, the sea's parted, GM's let a little Hep B scare um and we got a kid that was slotted anywhere from 4-9 on many mock lists (averaged about 7 on the good ones, yes, I like to play with stats somedays to make my point...heehee don't hate the playa)

We also got a level headed kid in Davis that people forgot about as he was out all year. He used to be a top 3 pick and didn't work out for anyone really, just a few. Last couple days the rmours were that he had in fact already improved a shot that nobody new he had, and he was on a nice little improvement curve as he has a massive chip on his shoulder because he thinks he fucked himself by staying another year, and getting hurt, which is the WORST thing that can happen when you decide to stay.

Going in to an uncertain draft, with no hope in hell to trade up to a top 5 position, holding #13..... toronto did very well.

I would never guarantee anything, but with these two guys, we may actually have one of those diamonds in the rough you absolutely need to succeed in this league without spending. I'm not sure how it could have worked out better. Not thinking realistically.

Give um an A and cross your fingers
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Old 06-25-2010, 09:50 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm a little concerned because he was unable to lead a very mediocre UNC team when it was his turn to be "the man" but overall the pick makes sense.
I hear what you're saying, but if it's hard for a PF in the NBA to lead a team, how hard is it for a green young kid in the NCAA, which is a guards league as well.

I think he'll be ok.
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He kept his picks instead of trying to move has beens like Jermain Oneal around the NBA so for that I give him an A.

The players are a crap shoot esp at the spots they were picked. Who knows I could state a ton of good things and a ton of bad things about Ed Davis but I'm realitively satisfied with the pick.

For now an A I'll play with the review mirror in a couple years though.
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Old 06-25-2010, 09:51 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Gotta say A. Not only did Colangelo take the BPA at #13, he could have the steal of the draft in trading for Alabi at #50. Kid can come in right away and play D, block/alter shots and board. His offensive game will come along.
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I don't disagree with that, I think it will be easier to rate this draft after free agency is over and done with. Right now we desperatly need a leader and we just don't have one, which is why Im down on it.

Outside of John Wall and MAYBE Evan Turner, there really wasn't a leader in this draft.

So I agree, I think he'll be ok, the team is just really in flux right now.


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I hear what you're saying, but if it's hard for a PF in the NBA to lead a team, how hard is it for a green young kid in the NCAA, which is a guards league as well.

I think he'll be ok.
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I would rate this as a C. Although this draft added some young talent with D and rebounding focus I still am not convinced this will get us over the hump or give us a play off team

Two main reasons:

1) These guys are still young and have not proven themselves in the NBA. Who knows how things will go once they start playing in the big leagues? Again I will take the wait and see approach
2) We are basically seeing big signs that Bosh is gone and BC has no intention of persuing. This leaves our line up with 0 stars, 0 leadership and 0 chances of landing another star here. Unless BC pulls a rabbit out of the hat, which I doubt BC will. In a conf. where your up against playoff hardened teams with good leadership like Boston/Orlando + Miami /Wizards / Atlanta/Bobcats/Cleveland all looking to make big moves to acquire more stars it looks bleak for the Raptors with Bargs as our best goto guy

BC better have some major plans up his sleeve or a few A's up his sleeve otherwise with our coaching staff and too many young inexperienced players we are not a playoff contention team right now. We need a star or two atleast and frankly all i can do is now wait and see what happens on July 1st

if most of the big names end up in the east coast and BC makes no pitch for atleast trying and landing a big name here..im going to be pissed.
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A Best player @ #13 and getting Alabi who was projected to go in the late 1st round. Very smart night imo. Would have liked Bledsoe or Bradley if possible, but looking back at it now with more clarity it was a good night.
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I would rate this as a C. Although this draft added some young talent with D and rebounding focus I still am not convinced this will get us over the hump or give us a play off team

Two main reasons:

1) These guys are still young and have not proven themselves in the NBA. Who knows how things will go once they start playing in the big leagues? Again I will take the wait and see approach
2) We are basically seeing big signs that Bosh is gone and BC has no intention of persuing. This leaves our line up with 0 stars, 0 leadership and 0 chances of landing another star here. Unless BC pulls a rabbit out of the hat, which I doubt BC will. In a conf. where your up against playoff hardened teams with good leadership like Boston/Orlando/Atlanta + Miam /Wizards / Bobcats all looking to make big moves to acquire more stars it looks bleak for the Raptors with Bargs as our best goto guy

BC better have some major plans up his sleeve or a few A's up his sleever otherwise with our coaching staff and too many young inexperienced players we are not a playoff contention team right now. We need a star or two atleast and frankly all i can do is now wait and see what happens on July 1st

if most of the big names end up in the east coast and BC makes no pitch for atleast trying and landing a big name here..im going to be pissed.
to your first point - how did you expect him to draft a player with nba experience? the pointg of the question is to grade the picks we made. unless you think we could have acquired a playoff tested veteran in a draft day trade, i'm not sure why you think that is a fair criticism.
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CBSsports grades:

First round pick: #13 Ed Davis
Grade: A
Analysis: When undersized Andrea Bargnani is your center, taking the best available big man is a wise move, whether Chris Bosh returns or not.

Second round pick: #50 Solomon Alabi
Grade: A
Analysis: Some were projecting the shot-blocking big man would go a full round earlier. Getting him this late has to rate as the steal of the draft.
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CBSsports grades:

First round pick: #13 Ed Davis
Grade: A
Analysis: When undersized Andrea Bargnani is your center, taking the best available big man is a wise move, whether Chris Bosh returns or not.

Second round pick: #50 Solomon Alabi
Grade: A
Analysis: Some were projecting the shot-blocking big man would go a full round earlier. Getting him this late has to rate as the steal of the draft.
LOL at CBSsports - Since when is 7 feet at the 5 position considered undersized?
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I would rate this as a C. Although this draft added some young talent with D and rebounding focus I still am not convinced this will get us over the hump or give us a play off team

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All due respect my man, are you sure you fully understand the draft? it isn't meant to be a vehicle to shift a bad team to a playoff squad. It's a building tool.

Unless you're in position to grab those once a decade type guys, the draft is not where it happens.

Where it WILL happen is the next phase of off season madness, which, is the free Agency lottery. Trust that the hours BC and his team have been working have been spent almost exclusively on this. Not the draft.

Cross them fingers 202. The real ride is about to come.
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Old 06-25-2010, 10:09 AM   #17 (permalink)
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LOL at CBSsports - Since when is 7 feet at the 5 position considered undersized?
Because he plays small Mango.

I used to guard some guys 6'8" because they played small, conversely, my buddy started on an OCAA team as a 4, and he was 6'1", he played very big.

Thats all they mean brother!
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LOL at CBSsports - Since when is 7 feet at the 5 position considered undersized?
lol. Yeah someone doesn't know much there. But I do like the grades they gave the picks!
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to your first point - how did you expect him to draft a player with nba experience? the pointg of the question is to grade the picks we made. unless you think we could have acquired a playoff tested veteran in a draft day trade, i'm not sure why you think that is a fair criticism.
I meant we have to wait and see how these guys perform in the big leagues. In my eyes the NBA is a compeltely different setup + they are going to be working under a different structure now.

I think it is too early in the game to be grading picks, this is why i went with a C. Yeah they mightve looked good on paper or in whichever school they did play for, but how much will these picks impact the raptors? or their success for that matter? All of this will have to be seen in the future.

I think the picks were good especially for 13th overall pick on the 1st round but when i grade a pick i think about long term contribution too and right now i cannot say or see how it will pan out for the raps. It looks good on paper but we all know how that goes.
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Old 06-25-2010, 10:10 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I don't know how you guys can just blindly rate that an A.
He didn't do anything.
He got lucky someone fell down the ranks.
And he bought a pick that fell horribly down.

WOOOOO such an eventful evening.

Everyone that's stating "he should have got X, and Y was probably available" shouldn't have rated this an A.

This was a B- at best, meant to rate it C but miss-clicked :facepalm:
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