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js12 01-16-2011 08:08 PM

Midseason report card
 
Raptors' mid-season report card | Mike Ganter | Columnists | Sports | Toronto Sun

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Andrea Bargnani (5th NBA year) B

In a year where little is expected from a wins standpoint, the best gauge of progress is how your future key components fare. For Bargnani, who, barring a sudden change is now and will be for the foreseeable future this teams No. 1 option on offence, there has been progress. Bargnani is averaging 22.0 points a game, up from the 17.2 he averaged last year as the No. 2 option behind Chris Bosh. The hope was he would take a similar leap on the defensive end, but that has not happened. Just as bad, if not worse is the fact that his rebounding numbers, which should go up without Bosh in the lineup, have dipped from 6.2 a game to 5.8. As a scorer Bargnani is taking the necessary steps and as the only player on this team that the opposition game plans for, his top mark on the club is warranted.
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Jose Calderon (sixth NBA year) B -

It has been a strange half season for Calderon, who has had to come to grips with the fact that the Raptors traded him in the off-season only to have the trade fall through. For a man like Calderon who values loyalty and “the team” above all else there’s no way that didn’t sting. He started the year slow playing behind Jarrett Jack, but has picked up his play considerably since. Even a nagging foot injury has not held him back significantly. His 10.6 points a game are just a shade higher than last year’s (10.3) but the assists are up considerably, averaging 8.3 this year to the 5.9 a year ago. Turnovers, though, are also up, going from 1.46 a game to 1.90. The good news for Raptors fans is twofold: Right now he’s playing some of the best basketball of his life and he’s no where close to 100% healthwise, which suggests room for improvement still.
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DeMar DeRozan (second NBA year) B-

Outside of Bargnani, no one is being watched closer by the organization for signs of progress than the USC product. DeRozan flourished in the absence of Bargnani for six games. He was the dynamic, take-over-the-game scorer GM Bryan Colangelo must have envisioned when he drafted him ninth overall two and a half years ago. When Bargnani returned to the lineup after a four-game absence just after Christmas, DeRozan initially kept up his scoring. Things have fallen off a bit in that regard of late but the hope is the two can co-exist and become a dominant 1-2 scoring punch for years to come. DeRozan is showing intermittent signs of that. His defence remains very much a work in progress. What management has to keep reminding itself is that DeRozan is still a 21-year-old kid. He’s averaging 14.4 points a game, second on the team to Bargnani and up considerably from the 8.6 he scored a game last season.
Good job by the Toronto Sun. Goes on the rate other players (lowest being Kleiza with a D) and Triano,Colangelo.

Thoughts on their ratings, and maybe our own ratings?

FoldedLaundry 01-16-2011 09:02 PM

Seemed pretty accurate, if only injuries didnt plague us, our record would look different.

Aamir 01-16-2011 10:37 PM

I still say we are a playoff team(7th or 8th seed) if we are/were healthy. We play with a lot more energy and hustle than last season, which would lead to a bit more scratched out wins like Dallas, Orlando, OKC and Boston.

kishan13 01-17-2011 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DonMughal (Post 494348)
I still say we are a playoff team(7th or 8th seed) if we are/were healthy. We play with a lot more energy and hustle than last season, which would lead to a bit more scratched out wins like Dallas, Orlando, OKC and Boston.

+1 we were just starting to play really well before reggie got injured. We started out really bad because we didnt have a closer but now that bargnani is hitting big shots, we could have been so much better with reggie. I remember us outrebounding the other team by like 10, if only he didnt get injured.

tettays 01-17-2011 01:35 AM

the way the east is looking, 7 or maybe 8 teams will be battling for the 7th and 8th spots lmao.

so i agree, Raps are a playoff team. there's lots of time.

Metallikid 01-17-2011 02:32 AM

The sad part is the losses to Detroit and Washington this week pretty much made me realize we're probably not getting into the playoffs this year, although I do expect this team to win 30 games.

Shifty.py 01-17-2011 05:10 AM

Way off on Julian Wright description. He is anything but one-dimensional
I dare say he is our second best passer in addition to being best wing defender. Also he is in Trianos doghouse, god knows why. Needs to be told exactly what he must do on the floor at any moment

moremilk 01-17-2011 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DonMughal (Post 494348)
I still say we are a playoff team(7th or 8th seed) if we are/were healthy. We play with a lot more energy and hustle than last season, which would lead to a bit more scratched out wins like Dallas, Orlando, OKC and Boston.

which is why we need to trade barbosa, kleiza and evans ASAP
last thing we want is to get the 8th spot

WinnipegThunder 01-18-2011 12:11 AM

The fact that teams like the Raptors can even imagine claiming a playoff spot should embarass David Stern. Time for a hard cap, spread the talent around so there aren't 5-6 dominant teams and a bunch of teams hoping to hit .400 to make the playoffs.

TooStrong 01-18-2011 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by WinnipegThunder (Post 494938)
The fact that teams like the Raptors can even imagine claiming a playoff spot should embarass David Stern. Time for a hard cap, spread the talent around so there aren't 5-6 dominant teams and a bunch of teams hoping to hit .400 to make the playoffs.

No need for hard cap. I like this way, also the West Conference is very hard. The East is just a joke. Not Stern fault the Eastern Conference is a joke.

Aamir 01-18-2011 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by moremilk (Post 494530)
which is why we need to trade barbosa, kleiza and evans ASAP
last thing we want is to get the 8th spot

I understand because everyone here wants 1-5 top pick, which could end up as a bust, because this year's draft is pretty weak. But I just miss watching competetive basketball. Also, I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY want the Raptor playoff atmosphere back in Toronto. Even if it's for 2 games LOL. I guess it's not worth it though....

Sea of red. :sigh:

TooStrong 01-18-2011 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DonMughal (Post 494958)
I understand because everyone here wants 1-5 top pick, which could end up as a bust, because this year's draft is pretty weak. But I just miss watching competetive basketball. Also, I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY want the Raptor playoff atmosphere back in Toronto. Even if it's for 2 games LOL. I guess it's not worth it though....

Sea of red. :sigh:

I agree with this message.

Admiral 01-18-2011 05:35 PM

i would loosely agree that we may be a 7th or 8th seed playoff team, but that is the main problem, being in that position is basically being is sports limbo, you're not crappy enough to get good draft picks for the future and you're not even close to defeating any real contender in the playoffs
why would we want that? everyone knows that in the nba the chance of a 7th or 8th seed to defeat a 1st or 2nd seed in the playoffs according to history is like less than 1%, what is the point of us trying to reach for the bottom of the playoffs?!

jeffb 01-18-2011 06:29 PM

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No member of the Raptors has dealt with more injuries and played through them this year than Barbosa. The Brazilian Blur injured his wrist in the final pre-season game and at some point will require surgery to repair it. There have also been shoulder problems, hamstring problems, and knee problems to deal with. The wrist injury has forced Barbosa to adjust his shot so it has been a little inconsistent for a good part of the year, but his speed remains his top weapon. Coming exclusively off the bench, Barbosa is averaging 13.4 points a night.
How does this get him a C+?

Ultimately i'd easily give Barbosa a solid B for playing the way he has, through various fairly serious injuries.

js12 01-18-2011 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 495205)
How does this get him a C+?

Ultimately i'd easily give Barbosa a solid B for playing the way he has, through various fairly serious injuries.

The writer probably based the article off from pre-season expectations.

Barbosa was expected to make a difference off the bench and changed the game. A lot of nights, he did not get into the flow of the game and disappeared completely. Is it his fault? Probably not because of injury. But it's unfair to boost Barbosa's grade, because a lot of other players are also hurting.

gabe91 01-18-2011 10:04 PM

Leo Rautins - Fail...

Shifty.py 01-19-2011 05:54 AM

Oh, and Derozan does need to get spanked for his D. Too many times he loses his man off the ball completely.
Considering guaranteed starter spot and decimated roster, he needs to get his focus together.

Aamir 01-19-2011 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gabe91 (Post 495310)
Leo Rautins - Fail...

Be easy on him. He is kind of boring, but he does have great IQ of basketball. That's enough for me.


Matt Devlin: A :yeah:

Jack Armstrong: A+ :yeah:


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