Marion To The Raptors?
Old 06-25-2008, 10:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Rumour du jour ..... I hardly doubt this because I don't really think someone who works at the Raptors practice facility is prvy to know what offers are on the table.

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A part time trainer at my gym works with the Raptors at their practice facility. He told me that there is a deal in place right now, as long as nothing changes, that at draft night as long as Rose goes #1...which he will...Miami is gonna take Beasley, NOT Mayo, and will then trade Shawn Marion to the Raps for TJ Ford and contract fillers.

Take it for what it is worth guys. I'm not saying this is for sure happening, but don't be surprised if it does. I'm not one for pure speculation, but I just wanted to let everyone know that this may be something to think about.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't think a trainer would be in the "Raptors war room" but a trainer could be still in the know. Maybe one of his friends is a team scout or a member of the Raptors brass who would know? If its true this is huge for the Raptors if they can keep Marion around.
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Ford for Marion straight up??

I'd do that any day. I think Marion's perfect for us. But something tells me this isn't going to happen. Probably because of all the rumours of heard for the past week, none of them will happen. But this would be very good for us IMO.
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I think Miami would consider it if they feel negotiations on an extension aren't going to end well.

With this scenario the Raptors keep their pick, bonus.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:46 AM   #5 (permalink)
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hey i would do it in a second but that means Andrea experiment will continue
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:49 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Rumour du jour ..... I hardly doubt this because I don't really think someone who works at the Raptors practice facility is prvy to know what offers are on the table.
I would do that.But i don't see it happening because apparently the Heat aren't impressed with Beasley's level of maturity and attitude. Pat Reily doesn't want him.So i've heard in several places.
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Well I suppose this is a legitimately better option that Jermaine.

It sounds a little sketchy to me though, just because there have been better players than TJ (Brand, Odom, Boozer) linked to a Marion deal.

Make no mistake though, this would have me doing backflips.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:52 AM   #8 (permalink)
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The thing is that none of them are PGs. Maybe they think Mayo as a PG would be problem because of his shooting mentality and maybe they feel both he and Beasley are too good to pass on for someone else? I think Brand and Boozer would require the Heat giving up something extra and Odom, well, if I'm the Heat I would much rather have TJ on board than him. They already traded Odom's underachieving playoffs choking ass away once.
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Ford for Marion straight up??

I'd do that any day. I think Marion's perfect for us. But something tells me this isn't going to happen. Probably because of all the rumours of heard for the past week, none of them will happen. But this would be very good for us IMO.
It wouldn't be straight up,Marion makes 17.8 million next season so the Raptors would have to throw them probably Rasho Nesterovic. Who can start for one year before his contract expires and have Beasley play behind him.
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I would do that.But i don't see it happening because apparently the Heat aren't impressed with Beasley's level of maturity and attitude. Pat Reily doesn't want him.So i've heard in several places.
That has nothing to do with the trade...

They're saying if they don't get Rose, they'll trade for Ford to be their point guard.

And Pat Riley's not stupid. He realizes Beasley is a massive talent, and any other deal for a point guard (ie Mayo or Bayless) involves giving up the 2 pick.

Pat Riley saying weeks ago that Beasley's maturity didn't impress him certainly doesn't mean they're going to pass on a kid who is really a once in a lifetime type talent.

If Pat Riley would rather be running Mayo/Wade/Marion for one year than running Ford/Wade/Beasley for the forseeable future...well I would just say that's questionable.

Also, were this deal to go down, I assume we'd have to be tossing in at least Rasho, yes?
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It wouldn't be straight up,Marion makes 17.8 million next season so the Raptors would have to throw them probably Rasho Nesterovic. Who can start for one year before his contract expires and have Beasley play behind him.
My thinking exactly... TJ & Rasho for Marion... not a bad deal for Raps providing Marion doesn't get offended that he is not 'the franchise' and accepts that Bosh is.
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That has nothing to do with the trade...

They're saying if they don't get Rose, they'll trade for Ford to be their point guard.

And Pat Riley's not stupid. He realizes Beasley is a massive talent, and any other deal for a point guard (ie Mayo or Bayless) involves giving up the 2 pick.

Pat Riley saying weeks ago that Beasley's maturity didn't impress him certainly doesn't mean they're going to pass on a kid who is really a once in a lifetime type talent.

If Pat Riley would rather be running Mayo/Wade/Marion for one year than running Ford/Wade/Beasley for the forseeable future...well I would just say that's questionable.

Also, were this deal to go down, I assume we'd have to be tossing in at least Rasho, yes?

I agree they'd have to throw Rasho into this especially since he has an expiring contract.So he can help bring Beasley along and then maybe sign a contract for alot less after the season as a veteran back up.That would be very attractive to Miami IMO!
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My thinking exactly... TJ & Rasho for Marion... not a bad deal for Raps providing Marion doesn't get offended that he is not 'the franchise' and accepts that Bosh is.
I think there are more than enough touches for both these guys.
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hey i would do it in a second but that means Andrea experiment will continue
I have no problem with Andrea,Bosh,Marion playing together at all.Andrea IMO will be much improved this coming season and with Marion there the pressure wouldn't be so high for him to be the "GUY" behind Bosh!
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I dont like him, he seems to be all about the money. I hope Im wrong.
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They're all about the money. Come on now...
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People thought TJ Ford was selfish, wait till you get a load of Marion, and yes, I'd rather him over Maggette anyday. Cap flexibility would come pretty quick.
Marion would make this team better, sure, but doesn't necessarily solve our toughness quotent..and Jose would have to stay healthy. Otherwise, Marion is fucked. I'd rather this be a 3-eay deal where Marion gets flipped for someone else.
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They're all about the money. Come on now...
Exactly.And if he's playing for a contract he'll give you his usual 18 PPG/10RPG.
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They're all about the money. Come on now...
sorry, but thats not true. Money is important for everyone, but that doesnt mean everybofy would go to a crappy team and miss your chance for a championship for money.
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People thought TJ Ford was selfish, wait till you get a load of Marion, and yes, I'd rather him over Maggette anyday. Cap flexibility would come pretty quick.
Marion would make this team better, sure, but doesn't necessarily solve our toughness quotent..and Jose would have to stay healthy. Otherwise, Marion is fucked. I'd rather this be a 3-eay deal where Marion gets flipped for someone else.
Yeah right flip him for Boozer?? LOL
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