Marion to Dallas in Unconfirmed Four Team Deal

Dark Knight · 07-06-2009, 10:44 PM

I'm so excited!

the_ raps_analyst · 07-06-2009, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snooch

Otis would like it.

Team is sitting at over 67 million dollars in committed salary and only 8 players currently signed.

Opening up an extra 7 million in space would save them a dollar for dollar tax on anything over the lux level.(assuming MLE is about 6 million, 4 million in taxes alone and about 5 or 6 million total) That would alow them to fill out their roster.

Yeah, but for the most part, Orlando has gotten worse than last season. Many contenders have made their roster better, but Orlando got much worse. They seriously need more players.

**Belsius** · 07-06-2009, 10:45 PM

In the article I posted it doesnt say anything about Orlando though.

rodstriker · 07-06-2009, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snooch

Otis would like it.

Team is sitting at over 67 million dollars in committed salary and only 8 players currently signed.

Opening up an extra 7 million in space would save them a dollar for dollar tax on anything over the lux level.(assuming MLE is about 6 million, 4 million in taxes alone and about 5 or 6 million total) That would alow them to fill out their roster.

Maybe... Otis said he wouldn't take part in any Hedo S&T

the_ raps_analyst · 07-06-2009, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belsius

In the article I posted it doesnt say anything about Orlando though.

I guess everyone is just excited, lol.

Dark Knight · 07-06-2009, 10:46 PM

In BC we trust.

the_ raps_analyst · 07-06-2009, 10:53 PM

Marion to Dallas? (UPDATE) - CBSSports.com

UPDATE: If Toronto and Dallas work out a deal, Jerry Stackhouse almost certainly would be headed to Toronto because only $2 million of his $7 million salary for next season is guaranteed. Also, you should be following me on Twitter, because you could've found out about this story before I posted it. This news is like so-a-half-hour-ago.

UPDATE: A second person familiar with the situation said the Marion-to-Dallas scenario was being pushed by Mavs owner Mark Cuban and Marion's agent, Dan Fegan. Dallas, the person said, was trying to involve either Oklahoma City or Memphis as a third team to facilitate Toronto's need to clear cap space for Turkoglu.

UPDATE: While there is interest in Marion among several contenders seeking an agile transition player and 3-point shooter, his potential landing spots are limited to teams willing and able to pay him more than the mid-level exception of about $5.6 million -- unless that's all Fegan is able to get for him. That would appear to take a team like Cleveland out of the mix for Matrix.

Snooch · 07-06-2009, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belsius

In the article I posted it doesnt say anything about Orlando though.

no it doesnt, but it should involve Orlando. Makes more sense.

There is absolutly no reason to sign and trade Marion solely for capspace other than to give marion more money.

Dallas can sign him for the MLE if Marion wants to be there and dallas wants him.

We need cap relief to afford us to sign more players after Turk.
So unless the S&T involved us trading away banks and getting Wright, Barea and stackhouse it isnt of much benefit to us.

Actually if Marion was signed at 8 million,

Marion, Banks, Jawai

for
Stack, Barea, Wright, 2 million cash

meets cba requirements

**Belsius** · 07-06-2009, 10:59 PM

I just dont see the orlando thing happening. The word Magic hasnt even being mentioned yet.

Snooch · 07-06-2009, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belsius

I just dont see the orlando thing happening

it would if Bass got included.

Dallas out:
Stack, Bass S&T cash

In:
MarionS&T, Hump

Orlando out"
HedoS&T

In
Stack, Cash, BassS&T

TO out:
Marion, Hump

In Turk(and 3 million extra capspace)

rodstriker · 07-06-2009, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snooch

Dallas can sign him for the MLE if Marion wants to be there and dallas wants him.

NOoo

MLE already commited to Gortat

jeffb · 07-06-2009, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snooch

no it doesnt, but it should involve Orlando. Makes more sense.

There is absolutly no reason to sign and trade Marion solely for capspace other than to give marion more money.

Dallas can sign him for the MLE if Marion wants to be there and dallas wants him.

We need cap relief to afford us to sign more players after Turk.
So unless the S&T involved us trading away banks and getting Wright, Barea and stackhouse it isnt of much benefit to us.

Actually if Marion was signed at 8 million,

Marion, Banks, Jawai

for
Stack, Barea, Wright, 2 million cash

meets cba requirements

If Marion signs for about 8.5-9Mil and is moved we should be able to sign Turkoglu and stay under the cap and then sign our FA to go over the cap allowing us to round out the roster w/MLE/LLE & Bi annual

the_ raps_analyst · 07-06-2009, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snooch

it would if Bass got included.

Dallas out:
Stack, Bass S&T cash

In:
MarionS&T, Hump

Orlando out"
HedoS&T

In
Stack, Cash, BassS&T

TO out:
Marion, Hump

In Turk(and 3 million extra capspace)

I unno if Dallas is willing to let go of Bass... but then again its Marc Cuban.

XiaominWu · 07-06-2009, 11:03 PM

If Marion was OK with the MLE, I expect he would have been in Cleveland by now.

the_ raps_analyst · 07-06-2009, 11:05 PM

^^^^^^^^
exactly. If he would take a pay cut to play for a crappy team, why wouldnt he want to play for a contender.

Snooch · 07-06-2009, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffb

If Marion signs for about 8.5-9Mil and is moved we should be able to sign Turkoglu and stay under the cap and then sign our FA to go over the cap allowing us to round out the roster w/MLE/LLE & Bi annual

Dont think so, a team that is under the cap must first resign their own fa's before extending contracts to other teams fa's, so that means we would still need to renounce other players and fill out roster with minimum players. Excemptions would be forfeited.

On a side note, Otis said he wouldnt S&T with Toronto for Marion or Delfino because he wants no salary coming back, Stackhouse wouldnt be any salary coming back.

rodstriker · 07-06-2009, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_ raps_analyst

I unno if Dallas is willing to let go of Bass... but then again its Marc Cuban.

He'd trade basically Bass for Marion, without hesitation. Specially starting a 36 years PG in the next 3 years, for 8+ M

Marion is a NBA proven player. Bass is a promise

the_ raps_analyst · 07-06-2009, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodstriker

He'd trade basically Bass for Marion, without hesitation. Specially starting a 36 years PG in the next 3 years, for 8+ M

Marion is a NBA proven player. Bass is a promise

yeah, but look what happened last time he made a move like that.

**Belsius** · 07-06-2009, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Sports 620 KTAR's John Gambodoro is reporting today that the Suns are interested in bringing Shawn Marion back to Phoenix for something near the MLE ($5m/yr).

With Grant Hill exploring his options, the thought of Marion back in town is almost too good to be true. I've always been a huge fan of the Trix. You can say a LOT of bad things about Marion (mostly that his ego got the better of him) but on the court NO ONE played harder each and every game. And while Grant is a fantastic guy and played great, if you have to choose between a 31 year old Marion who can defend 4 positions and run the floor and finish with the best of them then it is no contest.

I am a bit surprised that the Suns would consider it, but very happy to hear that is the case.

Marion back to Phoenix - Open Thread

Phoenix might be behind him too

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the_ raps_analyst is confused why the raptors are so consistantly inconsistant Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 843 Representing:	Marion to Dallas? (UPDATE) - CBSSports.com UPDATE: If Toronto and Dallas work out a deal, Jerry Stackhouse almost certainly would be headed to Toronto because only $2 million of his $7 million salary for next season is guaranteed. Also, you should be following me on Twitter, because you could've found out about this story before I posted it. This news is like so-a-half-hour-ago. UPDATE: A second person familiar with the situation said the Marion-to-Dallas scenario was being pushed by Mavs owner Mark Cuban and Marion's agent, Dan Fegan. Dallas, the person said, was trying to involve either Oklahoma City or Memphis as a third team to facilitate Toronto's need to clear cap space for Turkoglu. UPDATE: While there is interest in Marion among several contenders seeking an agile transition player and 3-point shooter, his potential landing spots are limited to teams willing and able to pay him more than the mid-level exception of about $5.6 million -- unless that's all Fegan is able to get for him. That would appear to take a team like Cleveland out of the mix for Matrix.

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the_ raps_analyst is confused why the raptors are so consistantly inconsistant Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 843 Representing:	^^^^^^^^ exactly. If he would take a pay cut to play for a crappy team, why wouldnt he want to play for a contender.