Marco Belinelli stats breakdown by potential role
Old 07-31-2009, 05:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The purpose of this thread is to show/gauge what Marco could provide given different roles. Its based on stats found at Yahoo Sports, which I imported to Excel and made calculations. Please note that I determined the "role" based on minutes, not actual starts and substitutions:

Bit player, < 10 minutes/game
Average Minutes: 6:10
Games: 9


PPG: 2.44
FG%: 45.5 (10 for 22)
3PT%: 50 (4 for 8)
FT%: 0 (0 for 2)
REB: 0.2
AST:0
TO: 0
STL: 0
PF: 1


Role player, < 20 minutes/game, > 10 minutes/game
Average Minutes: 15.44
Games: 11


PPG: 5.78
FG%: 47.2 (25 for 53)
3PT%: 48 (12 for 25)
FT%: 71 (5 for 7)
REB: 1
AST: 2
TO: 1
STL: 1
PF: 1


6th Man, < 30 minutes/game, > 20 minutes/game
Average Minutes: 25:22
Games: 9


PPG: 10.3
FG%: 41.2 (35 for 85)
3PT%: 26 (8 for 31)
FT%: 83 (15 for 18)
REB: 3
AST: 2
TO: 1
STL: 1
PF: 2


Starter, > 30 minutes/game

Average Minutes: 34:53
Games: 12


PPG: 15.7
FG%: 44.6 (70 for 57)
3PT%: 33 (28 for 67)
FT%: 86 (20 for 24)
REB: 2.8
AST: 3.8
TO: 3
STL: 1
PF: 3

Based on the different scenarios it looks as though Marco would be best suited for the bench right now as he was most effecient playing around 15 minutes per game last season.
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Based on the different scenarios it looks as though Marco would be best suited for the bench right now as he was most effecient playing around 15 minutes per game last season.

As a starter he averaged almost 16PPG/3/3. He should be starting, especially if he shows some defensive ability come training camp.I think the SG will be a matchup situation and it also depend sheavily on how Derozan developpes. Because the way i see it it's either Belinelli or Derozan starting at the 2.
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All his percentages went down given starter minutes. He also coughed up the ball three times per game. He's most efficient as a bench player. I was hoping when I went through this process I was going to see a player who performed better given more minutes but that was not the case. The Warriors had one of the worst defenses in the league last year and so I'm not certain if defense is going to exactly be a redeeming quality that shines through his game in camp. Based on what I've found through this exercise it seems pretty obvious that they can get the most out of Marco by bringing him off the bench. Wright is probably the better fit for the starting job but I may break him down like this shortly as well...
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Maybe is because i've watched the Italia's games this period, and i've seen him, more then Bargs, carrying the team on his shoulders, that i think he should start.
He's really good, what he did in Golden State means nothing, his coach never liked him and never created space or games for him on the court. He can only get better than this stats.

And i was thinking, now the team have a Bosh's friend and a Barg's friend, who's next, some spaniard?
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LOL, Colangelo already did that. Jose's friend turned out to be a baby with bad life judgment.
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Interesting stats, thanks for putting those together.

Looks like 'role player' is his best overall fit, from those stats. It was amazing how his 3P% plummeted with the increase in minutes.

That said, it all really depends on the team - we can't just take his numbers from GS and apply them cut-and-paste style to what he wil do with the Raps.

I see him as a 6th man/possibly a starter (depending on the performance and potential injuries to DeRozan, Wright, and Jack) and I bet his numbers would be better than those statistics indicate in one of those larger roles.

Who really knows though. It will be very interesting to see.
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10 points off the bench not bad, if Derozan can avg around 10 points too, that's a bonus on the offensive end, they just need to defend.
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As a sixth man I can see him filling the same sort of role as JR Smith in Denver - come in for a spark, make plays in the open court and get the three point game rolling.
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I think he should be a sixth man.

Bellinelli will basically give us what Kapono was supposed to, except Bellinelli can also move around and, wait for it... jump.
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As a sixth man I can see him filling the same sort of role as JR Smith in Denver - come in for a spark, make plays in the open court and get the three point game rolling.
If he can be anything like J.R Smith offensively that be amazing, all though I wouldn't mind the taunting .

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I see him getting between 8-12 ppg next year.
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J.R. Smith is a high flyer with range. Those guys are rare and Marco isn't one of them. I'm not sure who to compare him to...Maybe a more efficient, Marko Jaric?
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The purpose of this thread is to show/gauge what Marco could provide given different roles. Its based on stats found at Yahoo Sports, which I imported to Excel and made calculations. Please note that I determined the "role" based on minutes, not actual starts and substitutions:

Bit player, < 10 minutes/game
Average Minutes: 6:10
Games: 9


PPG: 2.44
FG%: 45.5 (10 for 22)
3PT%: 50 (4 for 8)
FT%: 0 (0 for 2)
REB: 0.2
AST:0
TO: 0
STL: 0
PF: 1


Role player, < 20 minutes/game, > 10 minutes/game
Average Minutes: 15.44
Games: 11


PPG: 5.78
FG%: 47.2 (25 for 53)
3PT%: 48 (12 for 25)
FT%: 71 (5 for 7)
REB: 1
AST: 2
TO: 1
STL: 1
PF: 1


6th Man, < 30 minutes/game, > 20 minutes/game
Average Minutes: 25:22
Games: 9


PPG: 10.3
FG%: 41.2 (35 for 85)
3PT%: 26 (8 for 31)
FT%: 83 (15 for 18)
REB: 3
AST: 2
TO: 1
STL: 1
PF: 2


Starter, > 30 minutes/game

Average Minutes: 34:53
Games: 12


PPG: 15.7
FG%: 44.6 (70 for 57)
3PT%: 33 (28 for 67)
FT%: 86 (20 for 24)
REB: 2.8
AST: 3.8
TO: 3
STL: 1
PF: 3

Based on the different scenarios it looks as though Marco would be best suited for the bench right now as he was most effecient playing around 15 minutes per game last season.
I'm not convinced that these stats tell us very much.
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The stats say he is more of a spot player that needs to find consistency in his game.
This may happen if the Raps suffer an injury to either of the guard spots, then every one covers the gap.
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I'm not convinced that these stats tell us very much.
They don't. The fact is we'll have a different system and we'll see how he fits. Him or Derozan will start in all likely hood because Wright is our main option to play behind Turkoglu by far imo. Therefore i would give Belinelli the starting role and Derozan the backup spot with Jack cleaning up here and there playing with Jose at times.
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Good stats.

BC brought Jack to play with Bosh (they were teammates in college), and he brought marco to play with Andrea because they are also team mates on Italian team. A youtube video of both playing with each other on the national team showed they have great chemistry. BC is building a strong team at a very short period of team.
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This season I'm predicting 8.6ppg, 1.4rpg, and 4.8apg for nelli his court vision is off the charts.
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J.R. Smith is a high flyer with range. Those guys are rare and Marco isn't one of them. I'm not sure who to compare him to...Maybe a more efficient, Marko Jaric?
Actually, funny enough i'd say he's a more consistent Carlos Delfino. Although Delfino seems to be better defensively at least for now (Beli is only 23) but they both can create their own shot, both can get to the rim and both can also play PG.
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how is he a more consistent delfino? the guy hasn't even had consistent minutes in the NBA.

it's been mentioned throughout many of the threads pre and post trade

he's coming from nellie ball. a system that has no repercussions for the bad shots that you take, as long as there's lots of shots taken. his statistics are a mirage and completely irrelevant to the Raptors as long as we have an offensive system to adhere by.

i hope beli turns out, but any player that comes out of golden state has a disclaimer - not as good as advertised.
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