•LX•: O’Nani ‘09
Old 01-23-2009, 03:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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When this season began I had hoped the trio of bigs in Bosh, O’Neal, and Bargnani, could play like a modern day version of the Cackle Sisters. Mary Jane and Carolyn DeZurik performed at the Grand Ole Opry in the 30’s and 40’s. They incorporated bird calls into elaborate yodels that they sang in unison. When Mary Jane called it quits, Carolyn recruited the third DeZurik sister Lorraine and they just kept right on yodeling along. The same plan could have worked out well between the three guys at the 4/5 spots for the Raptors. The hope was to keep the same level of talent on the floor throughout every game, no matter which guy came out.

Unfortunately, the old scratchy recordings of the yodeling big-timers stand out more than anything the Raptors bigs have done this season. The sisters had a band playing behind them and there just hasn’t been much music to back up a good number of performances by all of CB4, JO and il Mago. When there has been a sense of some good rhythms happening though, it has been through the interplay of Bosh and Bargnani in the past month. And that has saved this season from being a complete disaster. At least there is a sense of what can truly be built upon with this team, and a big contract to move in order to fill out the band.

The best part of the story is that this team has a legitimate Center. The guy who insisted he was a 4, and able to play the 3, has found himself looking extremely comfortable at the 5 spot. He still hangs out behind the arc, but he does so much more than that now. He rebounds. He creates space. He offers directions to other players on the defensive end. Remember when Garbajosa would play a little bit in the middle now and again? Bargnani offers a lot of what was missed when Jorge went down. The pump-fakes are there. The smart use of angles. The knowing where to be with confidence. And he doesn’t have to play big the way Jorge did - he is big, and now he’s comfortable being big.

Bargnani could be the first verifiable Center with realizable potential on this team since Marcus Camby. There have been guys who were natural power fowards moved into that slot, and certainly some of them had success, but none of them were ever happy about it. Kevin Willis and Hakeem were clearly the real deals, but they were also both older than dirt. Montross was a degree above the average stiff, and he didn’t last long at all. Andrea could be the guy this team relies on for a long time to come. I think he’s come to realise that. I noticed him chewing his gum on the bench and offering a bit of an Elvis-type sneer at the end of one of many ugly games about a month ago. Jermaine was ending off the night with another failed post-up, and I thought maybe I could see in Bargnani’s eyes a certain recognition of his chance to make his mark. O’Neal banged up his knee the next game, and Bargnani took off from there.


And there’s the good thing about the trade for JO if there’s anything to be found: the failure of this team, unlike last year, was not on Andrea’s shoulders at all. It doesn’t matter so much if he drives to the basket and fails to finish. This team has been weighed in the balance and found wanting, and the few sins that Bargnani might commit do not make the difference. But without JO here, that might not be an easy case to make. Certainly last season that kind of mental pressure that came with disappointing results likely hurt him. Now he has been able to seize a sense of his own importance on a team, which is something he clearly needs to gain confidence in himself, and he’s done so without having to bear the pressure that the team’s lack of success can bring. Both of those elements have allowed him to accept his role at the 5 and provide a few bright spots to a sad season. And it’s all thanks to the guy who changed his jersey number from 7 to 6 in a nice gesture to his big teammate upon his arrival. It would have been nice if JO could have solidified a few more changes aside from that number, and the need for a new coach, but at least through all the inability for this team to measure up to its promise, JO’s presence allowed for the big draft pick to measure up to what he was brought here for in his own right. They tried to take a step forward, took two back instead, but now have a clearer pathway.

Andrea Bargnani still has to get better at finishing at the rim, getting every rebound he can, and adding a few more blocked shots. But the thing I look for in him the most for the rest of the way, is simply to not let up. He needs to show that he can be solid for a full year. This team has too many guys that go through long cold stretches and fall off the map for a month or so. Andrea needs to stay consistent after getting a bit of a pass for a rough stretch following the coaching change and the attempt to shoehorn him into the small forward spot. That probably means the end of O’Nani before O’Nani was ever even revealed. O’Neal needs to move on in order to give Bargnani the last half of the season on his own. And then at least there might be something to forward to next season at least.
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Old 01-23-2009, 04:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Fantastic read. you had me at O'Nani, oh and the yodelling sisters my grandma used to rock from time to time, sandwiched between some willie nelson and charlie pride.

I'd say you're bang on about Bargs, and if there is a bright spot on this team right now, it's him, and he's only 21. He's playing better now than he ever did during his rookie year. I think he's looking around and he's seeing a disillusioned Bosh and a clown car of a supporting cast. it's his time to play with an edge we've never seen because there aren't many players in this league that can stop him. Watching him beat Prince off the dribble a couple of times the other night showed me that.
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Old 01-23-2009, 04:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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great job lx. this is one of the best so far.
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Old 01-23-2009, 04:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thi steam has a legit Center because Bargnani learned the entire position in on eyear.

Kudo's to him, the kid is about 10X more intelligent and talented then some give him credit for.

Wow.
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great read...Bargs is the real deal and the future

Great read...LX, your brilliant
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Old 01-23-2009, 07:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 01-23-2009, 08:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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He's got to bring his three-point game to the high-post.

What concerns me a bit about Andrea, is that he's been babied by the people who brought him here.

Playing time, touches, weren't always earned by the bigman, they were often given to him.

The fact is, he's playing great as the team is playing horrible. Their could be some false hope in his recent surge.

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Old 01-23-2009, 11:39 PM   #8 (permalink)
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He's got to bring his three-point game to the high-post.

What concerns me a bit about Andrea, is that he's been babied by the people who brought him here.

Playing time, touches, weren't always earned by the bigman, they were often given to him.

The fact is, he's playing great as the team is playing horrible. Their could be some false hope in his recent surge.
He's able to do that with controlled dribbles now. He can move in from the arc and to the top of the key, and go on from there if he can.

And I think he made the decision to actually seize the opportunity and not just let it be handed to him. Pair that with Bosh regaining some of the trust and chemistry they started to develop last season, and I think it's more than just a guy playing good on a bad team. It's his understanding and his ability to even direct other guys on defense that stands out for me.

Thanks for all the nice comments from everyone. Much appreciated.
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Old 01-24-2009, 05:20 AM   #9 (permalink)
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He's got to bring his three-point game to the high-post.

What concerns me a bit about Andrea, is that he's been babied by the people who brought him here.

Playing time, touches, weren't always earned by the bigman, they were often given to him.

The fact is, he's playing great as the team is playing horrible. Their could be some false hope in his recent surge.
wtf are you talking about?babied?...that stupid motherfucker smitch yankin him,starting him,yankin him, 3 minutes 20 minutes 36 minutes 3 minutes,yanked,started,yanked,started.YOU LET THE KID PLAY LIKE ALL OTHER HIGH PICKS....babied?.....if like all other top picks he got steady minutes from day 1 and not jerked around,his development would be light years ahead......his confidence was nearly shattered,thank god he believes in himself because most morons thought the poor kid was a bust.....babied?,lol.

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Old 01-24-2009, 05:47 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I kinda agree with Quad on that in some respects, in others, I think he was givin too much room.

Problem is, I think Mitchell helped create some of the things he ended up being givin too much room for.

Meh, no worries, he's better now.
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When it comes to accepting his role as a 5 he was babied. And Triano held back his minutes and had him playing the 3 way too much. But yeah it worked out. To me it came first with him accepting his role as a guy that has to play big on defense, being physical and rebounding. Mitchell was key in making that happen. Then Jermaine's struggles in bad games took a lot of pressure off him, and Bosh started showing him extra support, in effect realizing that this was not going to be the Bosh and O'Neal show, but that it had to be Bosh and Bargnani's team in the future. Then the kid had to do it for himself if he wasn't going to be stuck with 20-25 fairly meaningless minutes in the middle of games.
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Old 01-24-2009, 11:45 AM   #12 (permalink)
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This year the coaching is to blame for not giving Bargs the right minutes, AB CANNOT play the 3...it removes his intangibles, making him a massive matchup problem for any bigman, speed, quickness, and the shot. NO centre wants to hang around the arc guarding Bargs, No centre has the lateral quicks to keep Bargnani infront of them. It's a matchup nightmare, remember Howard Vs Bargnani, this year, Bargs started hitting shots over howard...he had no idea how to play him. When you play AB at the 3 he becomes a 7' 3 point shooter, cause quicker guys play off him and let him take that 3

Just look how Bargnani started the season, playing less minutes scoring and rebounding more, while he was a reserve for JO and Bosh, Once Smitch moved him to the 3...started to slump
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Old 01-24-2009, 11:53 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Most teams can adjust if AB is hanging outside all game, they put the PF on him..... he is playing really good, im not annoiting him anything yet tho.

As for being "Babied" i dont know. Alot of excuses, if you are worthy of a number 1 pick, you better be mentally tough, this is the big boy league, no excuses. Oh he got his PT all messed up, oh he was moved around, oh Sam pulled him... fact is, you gotta deal with it like a grown man, not make it an excuse, great players can play great, they prove it and make the coaches decision regarding PT and position easy, not the other way around. Fact is, this is the 1st stretch AB has played great in consistently his whole career, Sam never saw this AB. If you guys were coaches you prob would have brown nosed him so hard, he wouldnt have improved that much, a true pro improves when challenged, he doesnt make excuses like a baby. Neither should you.
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