Lowry #? in Raptors all time PG list
Old 01-02-2014, 09:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Where would you rank Lowry in a list of the greatest point guards in Raptors franchise history?

I'd put him as our 3rd best PG (behind Damon and Alvin) in terms of talent alone.

Maybe put down your own top 10 or top 5 list.
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I said he was 3rd a year ago and that stands.

Damon
Alvin
Klow
Ford
Jack

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Are we sure he isn't at one already.. guy passes, scores.. rebounds, defends and brings leadership and toughness

Ford brought that.. but Ford was undersized, Calderon was a pure pg but lacked defence.. Damon had mad talent but left so fast so Lowry is up there
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I said he was 3rd a year ago and that stands.

Damon
Alvin
Klow
Ford
Jack

Caldy is #6 in jeff's list, but #1 in raptor123's

that dude would still probably put lowry at the bottom of this list. he really hated lowry.

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I said he was 3rd a year ago and that stands.

Damon
Alvin
Klow
Ford
Jack

jose was better than jack. fifth.
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The way he's played in December - the best two-way PG we've ever had. Period.

Alvin has never been an offensive point guard. Damon has never defended at Lowry's level, and neither has Calderon. I have no clue what Ford and Jack are doing in this conversation.

If he can sustain this level of play for the rest of the season (assuming he finishes this season in Toronto), he'd be top 5 in the league and most definitely the best in our club's history.
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he's been great, but for such a small sample size.

As much as some of you don't wat to believe it Jose is up there in the top 3. Damon, Alvin Williams and Jose. If Lowry can play at this level or close to this for the season then he can join the group and surpass some names.
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jose was better than jack. fifth.
Jose was better than both Jack and Ford.
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The way he's played in December - the best two-way PG we've ever had. Period.

Alvin has never been an offensive point guard. Damon has never defended at Lowry's level, and neither has Calderon. I have no clue what Ford and Jack are doing in this conversation.

If he can sustain this level of play for the rest of the season (assuming he finishes this season in Toronto), he'd be top 5 in the league and most definitely the best in our club's history.
Truly this. He has played so differently I could put him 1st or 4th. End of the season would be a better time.
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Jose was better than both Jack and Ford.
I disagree, especially about Jack. He outplayed Calderon the only season he was here. In fact, he was our second best player in the 2009-10 season behind Bosh imo.
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I would put him 4th behind stoudamire, boogie and Jose. He needs to play more games as a Raptor. If he never played another game, and we had this discussion 5 years from now, Lowry would not be in the discussion.
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I disagree, especially about Jack. He outplayed Calderon the only season he was here. In fact, he was our second best player in the 2009-10 season behind Bosh imo.
Outplayed Calderon? Every other day there were stories about "the point guard controversy".
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Outplayed Calderon? Every other day there were stories about "the point guard controversy".

Almost every year JC was here there was a PG contreversy. The media loved to bring that up.

First 6 weeks of the season with Calderon starting we were in 10th place. Calderon goes down to an injury, Jack starts the next 3 months and we go to the 5th spot in the EC just behind Boston. Then Bosh goes down to injury and the season goes to shit. Jose goes back as the starter and we continue to struggle and miss the playoffs.

After the season, we attempted to trade Calderon (not Jack) and MJ pulled out at the last minute. We then couldn't find a taker for Calderon as he was considered injury prone and still had a lot of money owed to him. A month into the following season Jack was traded after a slow start and because he was the easier one to move.

Still say that for the ONE season he played here he was the better PG at both ends. Nobody will convince me otherwise. Prior to that season i was more of a Calderon fan even though he seemed to always be injured. After that season i much prefered Jack and i was off the Calderon bandwagon, wanted him gone as he was again injured.

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Jose was better than both Jack and Ford.
Ford yes, Jack no, and I'm a Calderon fan. I can say 100% that when Jack played here he played better than Calderon.
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Jose was better than both Jack and Ford.
Ford was better pre inury
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Ford was better pre inury
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but Ford did get injured, and Jack got traded...so if they did outplay Jose for a portion of a season, that's awesome, but Jose had a far better career as a Toronto Raptor. Not even close.

Jose's Raptor ranks - he's an all-time Raptor great.

1st all-time in assists by almost 2,000
2nd all-time in games played
5th all-time in steals
5th all-time in field goals made
4th all-time in 3pt fg made
9th all-time in ft made & attempted
8th all-time in defensive rebounds
6th all-time in points
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but Ford did get injured, and Jack got traded BECAUSE we couldn't trade Calderon...
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And i don't give a fuck, JC is 6th on my list
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but Ford did get injured, and Jack got traded...so if they did outplay Jose for a portion of a season, that's awesome, but Jose had a far better career as a Toronto Raptor. Not even close.

Jose's Raptor ranks - he's an all-time Raptor great.

1st all-time in assists by almost 2,000
2nd all-time in games played
5th all-time in steals
5th all-time in field goals made
4th all-time in 3pt fg made
9th all-time in ft made & attempted
8th all-time in defensive rebounds
6th all-time in points
Jose played over 500 games for this team. Almost 1/3 of the total games played by this organization period. The assist record is mighty impressive though.

Speaking of assists and team leaders, Lowry needs 28 assists to bump Oakley off of the number 10 spot on the Raps all time list!
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Ford was a near allstar before Horford got a hold of him. He was better than Jose before that.
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