Lineup tonight vs Atlanta?

jeffb · 03-17-2010, 11:11 AM

Antoine Wright is questionable for tonights game @ home to Atlanta (knee I believe). Triano saying that they're thiking of starting Jose. Will Derozan start the rest of season + the playoffs (if we get there?)if so, WTF??? Oh, and Joe Johnson is out for Atlanta. Thoughts?

babyface · 03-17-2010, 11:13 AM

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**'trane** · 03-17-2010, 11:22 AM

at the risk of instigating the wrath of raptor123, i think this is a horrible move. offence is not the issue. jose and hedo are a bad combo, and jose is much better at getting the 2nd unit going. i was hoping for dd to come out of the starting lineup and have wright move in, and then let dd and sonny, who are buddies, be the high-flying spark plug second unit under the guidance of jose. with wright out, i would have just post-poned this until next time he is available.

we might win tonight, we might not, but i don't think jose starting is the answer to anything besides having a more porous approach to perimiter defense. that's not going to solve anything.

Dutches · 03-17-2010, 11:24 AM

We play the Hawks tonight, who DESTROY our attempts at defense, and he's putting Jose (The Revolving Door) back into the starting line up....

Does anyone else find this a little strange?

03-17-2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 'trane

at the risk of instigating the wrath of raptor123, i think this is a horrible move. offence is not the issue. jose and hedo are a bad combo, and jose is much better at getting the 2nd unit going. i was hoping for dd to come out of the starting lineup and have wright move in, and then let dd and sonny, who are buddies, be the high-flying spark plug second unit under the guidance of jose. with wright out, i would have just post-poned this until next time he is available.

we might win tonight, we might not, but i don't think jose starting is the answer to anything besides having a more porous approach to perimiter defense. that's not going to solve anything.

He's good at the pick and roll with Bosh. This could get his confidence going at the least. But there's no way we can have perimeter defenders of Calderon, Derozan, Turkoglu. I'm not sure I know any playoff team in the history of the NBA that started those kinds of players to play D at the 1-2-3.

jeffb · 03-17-2010, 11:30 AM

Well put 'trane. It seems like a move for the sake of making a move. I mean they aren't about to sit Hedo, Bosh,Andrea so that leaves the back court. And Triano seems unwilling to move DD to the bench for some stupid ass reason. I think a 2nd unit of DD,Weems,Amir, Jose is a good one.

Renihan_00 · 03-17-2010, 11:33 AM

I feel bad for Jack. There is no reason why he should be moved to the bench and Calderon put above him.

Senseless demotion for the sake of making changes.

hontoni · 03-17-2010, 11:44 AM

Starting Jose is fine. We will lose to Hawks anyway. It will make us remember how the team with Jose as starter was and we will see the difference

I can see "who should start" threads again

Windex · 03-17-2010, 11:56 AM

Jack-Weems-Hedo-Bosh-Amir
rebounding is going to be a problem down low and Bargs won't help the situation

CB4Real · 03-17-2010, 11:56 AM

how the fuck is that going to help (starting jose) if they get the same mins? always start derozan in my opinion he will have a good night, dont give a shit about wright, yay johnsons out

kia4ever · 03-17-2010, 12:31 PM

why the fuck do we keep starting hedo?

this is sending a wrong message to the young players on our team, don't try because you're still going to sit on the benches.

Sick, Wicked and Nasty! · 03-17-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kia4ever

why the fuck do we keep starting hedo?

this is sending a wrong message to the young players on our team, don't try because you're still going to sit on the benches.

Hedo is a starter. We may not be happy with how he's played but you have to keep putting him out there until something clicks...we have too much invested in him not to play him. If this team is going to go anywhere in the playoffs it's with him playing so might as well cart him out there and see if he can't right his ship.

kia4ever · 03-17-2010, 12:39 PM

let him come off the bench until "something clicks",. Goddamn this sensitivity, if this was the old days he would sit out the whole game until he at least showed up to a game in shape.

takman_777 · 03-17-2010, 12:45 PM

hedo should be pulling splinters out of his ass!!! at least when a guy like Rasho goes in, he plays like he is grateful to be playing...

Raptor99 · 03-17-2010, 12:52 PM

Yep Calderon will start vs the Hawks. They just said on NBA TV:

Trouble in Toronto? - NBA Videos and Highlights

jeffb · 03-17-2010, 01:07 PM

Does Triano truely plan on starting DD the rest of the season? And if we get in the playoffs, is he gonna continue to start a rookie SG? Shouldn't he be gearing for the playoffs right now by putting out there the "playoff starting 5"? Because if this is it we're fucked. We probably are fucked either way, but god put your best foot forward at least!!

TORaptor4Ever · 03-17-2010, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sick, Wicked and Nasty!

Hedo is a starter. We may not be happy with how he's played but you have to keep putting him out there until something clicks...we have too much invested in him not to play him. If this team is going to go anywhere in the playoffs it's with him playing so might as well cart him out there and see if he can't right his ship.

Remember Jalen Rose?

He was making about $14M/yr at the time I think and we brought him off the bench as the 6th man for a good stretch of games....

... and he got the message and produced!

So I don't see why we can't do the same with Hedo.

Someguy again · 03-17-2010, 01:15 PM

Is triano trying to bust for lottery or make the playoffs?

jeffb · 03-17-2010, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever

Remember Jalen Rose?

He was making about $14M/yr at the time I think and we brought him off the bench as the 6th man for a good stretch of games....

... and he got the message and produced!

So I don't see why we can't do the same with Hedo.

Big difference though is that Sam was our coach and was apt to at least do something, triano is too much of a pussy to make Hedo our 6th man, or take a rookie out of the starting 5 for that matter.

jeffb · 03-17-2010, 01:28 PM

Ya know what really blows. The weather is amazing, spring is in the air and now should be the time we get excited for great ball + playoffs....yet now I'm almost dreading watching the next 2 games.

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'trane www.torontoraptorsforum.com giant steps Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 15,190 Representing:	at the risk of instigating the wrath of raptor123, i think this is a horrible move. offence is not the issue. jose and hedo are a bad combo, and jose is much better at getting the 2nd unit going. i was hoping for dd to come out of the starting lineup and have wright move in, and then let dd and sonny, who are buddies, be the high-flying spark plug second unit under the guidance of jose. with wright out, i would have just post-poned this until next time he is available. we might win tonight, we might not, but i don't think jose starting is the answer to anything besides having a more porous approach to perimiter defense. that's not going to solve anything.

03-17-2010, 11:30 AM	#6 (permalink)
jeffb is the baby faced assassin Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: YO MAMMA Posts: 81,104 Representing:	Well put 'trane. It seems like a move for the sake of making a move. I mean they aren't about to sit Hedo, Bosh,Andrea so that leaves the back court. And Triano seems unwilling to move DD to the bench for some stupid ass reason. I think a 2nd unit of DD,Weems,Amir, Jose is a good one.

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Renihan_00 Unacceptable?! Did you see the pool? They flipped the bitch! Get off my lawn Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 2,330 Representing:	I feel bad for Jack. There is no reason why he should be moved to the bench and Calderon put above him. Senseless demotion for the sake of making changes.

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hontoni -_- =) Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,403 Representing:	Starting Jose is fine. We will lose to Hawks anyway. It will make us remember how the team with Jose as starter was and we will see the difference I can see "who should start" threads again

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Windex the next dictator of MLSE fresh and clean Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: uʍop ɹǝpun Posts: 22,591 Representing:	Jack-Weems-Hedo-Bosh-Amir rebounding is going to be a problem down low and Bargs won't help the situation

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CB4Real KABOOOOOOOSHHHH straight out of COMPTON Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,279 Representing:	how the fuck is that going to help (starting jose) if they get the same mins? always start derozan in my opinion he will have a good night, dont give a shit about wright, yay johnsons out

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kia4ever is pounding the rock! Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 412 Representing:	why the fuck do we keep starting hedo? this is sending a wrong message to the young players on our team, don't try because you're still going to sit on the benches.

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kia4ever is pounding the rock! Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 412 Representing:	let him come off the bench until "something clicks",. Goddamn this sensitivity, if this was the old days he would sit out the whole game until he at least showed up to a game in shape.

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takman_777 is tired of all the Jose hating on this forum! sigh... Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NorthWestern Ontario Posts: 1,798 Representing:	hedo should be pulling splinters out of his ass!!! at least when a guy like Rasho goes in, he plays like he is grateful to be playing...

03-17-2010, 12:52 PM	#15 (permalink)
Raptor99 full of hope. Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 414 Representing:	Yep Calderon will start vs the Hawks. They just said on NBA TV: Trouble in Toronto? - NBA Videos and Highlights

03-17-2010, 01:07 PM	#16 (permalink)
jeffb is the baby faced assassin Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: YO MAMMA Posts: 81,104 Representing:	Does Triano truely plan on starting DD the rest of the season? And if we get in the playoffs, is he gonna continue to start a rookie SG? Shouldn't he be gearing for the playoffs right now by putting out there the "playoff starting 5"? Because if this is it we're fucked. We probably are fucked either way, but god put your best foot forward at least!!

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Someguy again stank member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 6,401 Representing:	Is triano trying to bust for lottery or make the playoffs?

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jeffb is the baby faced assassin Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: YO MAMMA Posts: 81,104 Representing:	Ya know what really blows. The weather is amazing, spring is in the air and now should be the time we get excited for great ball + playoffs....yet now I'm almost dreading watching the next 2 games.