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Old 06-03-2014, 02:22 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Rubio is a special player - but not all that effective. Brewer, Mbah a Moute, Turiaf - role players, all of whom can't score (or, specifically, shoot) to save their lives. Barea is the opposite - role player who can't defend all that much. Pekovic is the only really good piece on that team (another one that can't shoot) - and one complementary piece does not a good team make.

The Wolves are a great example of a team made up entirely of players who don't really play on both ends. Lots of specialists, not many two-way players.
brewer scored 50 that game tho :0 maybe a scorer? lol 20 layups probably
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Old 06-03-2014, 03:03 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Love is good. He is not franchise-changing talent.
That's a fair position to take. I disagree, though.
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Old 06-03-2014, 03:18 PM   #123 (permalink)
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That's a fair position to take. I disagree, though.
The last 2 PF's that were franchise changing talents were Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett. Yes, even Blake is not franchise-changing on the Clippers. Chris Paul might be, but the jury is still out. KD is. Lebron is, Anthony Davis might be, but it's too early to be certain. Melo isn't. Bosh isn't. Franchise changing talent is rarer than All-Star talent.
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The last 2 PF's that were franchise changing talents were Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett. Yes, even Blake is not franchise-changing on the Clippers. Chris Paul might be, but the jury is still out. KD is. Lebron is, Anthony Davis might be, but it's too early to be certain. Melo isn't. Bosh isn't. Franchise changing talent is rarer than All-Star talent.
That sentiment I agree with. I disagree with your stringent definition of franchise changing talent.
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Old 06-03-2014, 04:14 PM   #125 (permalink)
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That sentiment I agree with. I disagree with your stringent definition of franchise changing talent.
We need to have definitions for the label's we use. Disagreeing with the definition I'm using doesn't per-se make that definition incorrect. I could argue that your definition of franchise changing is too loose. It's all bla, bla, bla.

Regardless, I'm not in favour of us pursuing a trade for Love because the price is too high and the benefits are too uncertain, and that's using your standards for franchise changing capabilities.
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We need to have definitions for the label's we use. Disagreeing with the definition I'm using doesn't per-se make that definition incorrect. I could argue that your definition of franchise changing is too loose. It's all bla, bla, bla.

Regardless, I'm not in favour of us pursuing a trade for Love because the price is too high and the benefits are too uncertain, and that's using your standards for franchise changing capabilities.
Fair enough. I was basically just saying we'll need to agree to disagree, due to our difference of opinion in terms of evaluating Love's value to a team, both in his specific case and in terms of what level of stardom is worth chasing at cost of assets.
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