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View Poll Results: When it's all is said and done, who will have the better NBA career - JV or AD?
Jonas Valanciunas 15 30.00%
Anthony Davis 35 70.00%
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Old 08-07-2012, 01:42 PM   #21 (permalink)
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A year ago he wasn't the consensus #1 pick, if I recall correctly it was Drummond that was believed to be the #1 talent.
Wasn't he still in high school???
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:19 PM   #22 (permalink)
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davis is an athletic freak, JV has nowhere close the same tools.
He's actually fairly average for a center, not that big but fast. JV's only chance to dominate is to become very very skilled, so the road ahead is much tougher for him.
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davis is an athletic freak, JV has nowhere close the same tools.
He's actually fairly average for a center, not that big but fast. JV's only chance to dominate is to become very very skilled, so the road ahead is much tougher for him.
It can be done.... but many athletic freaks and phenoms have failed before.... JV is already more skilled, so he's on his way to making you right. AD won't be able to just jump around trying to block everything in the NBA like he did in college.
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:02 PM   #24 (permalink)
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whoever disliked carps post, you think AD will be able to just jump around and block everything in the NBA? hell, even dwight cant do that.............
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:03 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I'll go out on a limb and say Davis's ceiling is Tyson Chandler.
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:08 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I'll go out on a limb and say Davis's ceiling is Tyson Chandler.
willing to wager? i'd put good money to say he'd be better.
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:37 PM   #27 (permalink)
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It's nearly impossible to live up to that hype.... many have failed. I think he'll be good, but not like some have praised him mercilessly. He's going to struggle offensively unless he can increase his lower and upper body strength as he won't be playing with kids anymore. He won't be using those supposed guard skills as often as one would hope.
YES thank you. I'm tired of hearing how he's going to be this 6'10" guard that plays center against NBA level competition.

The Camby comparison is quite apt I think or as an article pointed out, an athletic version of Beidrins.
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willing to wager? i'd put good money to say he'd be better.
What's your criteria cause I'll take that bet
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:39 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Wasn't he still in high school???
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Beyond that, Kemzura said, Valanciunas still needs a lot of work.

“It is like with most big men who have no experience,” Kemzura said. “First he must get bigger and stronger. He must be able to hold his position and he needs strength for this. Second, he needs better post moves. He is still learning basics. He will play with his back to the basket when he is older. But now, he must learn. He needs to learn these things, and he will, but he will need time. He has a lot of work to do.”
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“There you go, this is the thing with Jonas,” Kemzura told Sporting News. “Sometimes, he wants to come in and do everything right away. In his head, he is working too fast. He is young, that happens. But he needs to slow down.”
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“Tactically, we got better matchups. For Jonas, it was better to be on the court when USA team played the big center, Chandler,” Kemzura said. “But when they played with a small lineup, with the 4s, not 5s, the more mobile ones, Songaila was better tactically. Plus, Jonas, he is good, but there (are) still many things he has to improve to learn.

“For him it was good to feel where he is going with his game, the NBA. We just tried to see what is best for us, what is working best for us. If it is working, we didn’t want to change.”

Olympics 2012: Lithuania coach breaks down Jonas Valanciunas' struggles for SN - NBA - Sporting News
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:20 PM   #31 (permalink)
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oh nooo, you mean he doesn't just hate Jonas?

Who's have thunk it eh boys.

Good grief.
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Old 08-07-2012, 09:15 PM   #32 (permalink)
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oh nooo, you mean he doesn't just hate Jonas?

Who's have thunk it eh boys.

Good grief.
Because posters like myself use the word misuse doesn't mean to imply the coach hates him - Kemzura is still an idiot. JV has lots to learn, that's no secret but he can't learn to be patient and slow down when sitting. He comes in he's excited, the earlier games were the opportunity for him to get acclimated but now later in the Olympics is too late. Regardless it doesn't matter. He'll get all the pt and practice he can handle when he plays in the NBA.
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Old 08-07-2012, 10:45 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Here's a question for you....if JV ends up being close to a Kevin Garnett and A. Davis ends up being a less skilled version of Kevin Durant, which do you want?

And before knee-jerking that answer think about Garnett's defensive and leadership presence and his career stats in his prime.

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Here's a question for you....if JV ends up being close to a Kevin Garnett and A. Davis ends up being a less skilled version of Kevin Durant, which do you want?

And before knee-jerking that answer think about Garnett's defensive and leadership presence and his career stats in his prime.

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Was that a serious comparison from what youve seen from the two of them? Because that's the most random comparison I've ever read on any messageboard ever.

I think like many have said already, Jonas' peak potential is Gasol, and I think its impossible at this point to make a comparison to Davis as of now because he's so unique. I think if you had to compare one to KG itd be Davis.
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Because posters like myself use the word misuse doesn't mean to imply the coach hates him - Kemzura is still an idiot. JV has lots to learn, that's no secret but he can't learn to be patient and slow down when sitting. He comes in he's excited, the earlier games were the opportunity for him to get acclimated but now later in the Olympics is too late. Regardless it doesn't matter. He'll get all the pt and practice he can handle when he plays in the NBA.
Idiot? He said Songalia was better tactically - and the dude had a great game and was a major reason they were with the USA in the 4th. Is Lithuania supposed to be trying to win or trying to give JV experience?
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:50 PM   #36 (permalink)
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But like LX said, it will in large part come down to who they're playing beside because neither are offensive juggernauts and both will hang their hats on bringing intangibles to the game.

JV is a machine, a lot of drive, from what I can tell he does what he is supposed to do. He's like a robot.

Davis had a year of NBA style ball under Calipari and what stood out to me was how unselfish he is. He had every reason to have a big head and try to put up big numbers, but he knew he wasn't the best offensive player on Kentucky and willingly passed the ball. He likes to play defense and share the rock. He has great instincts.

Davis has Hall of Fame potential. Valanciunas has all-star potential.

In terms of how low they can go...I think NOH will have to really screw up not to get confidence and production out of Davis, whereas I could easily see Valanciunas becoming lost in a different style of basketball from what he is used to.

He's coming into a team that wants to win which could mean some early trips to the bench and a lot of 8 minute games just like the Olympics. I think he might be a tad overrated at the moment and I'm not sure Casey and the Raps will have the patience to bring him along slowly if that is what he needs.
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Idiot? He said Songalia was better tactically - and the dude had a great game and was a major reason they were with the USA in the 4th. Is Lithuania supposed to be trying to win or trying to give JV experience?
Like I said, the time for JV to play was earlier. And yes, idiot.
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But like LX said, it will in large part come down to who they're playing beside because neither are offensive juggernauts and both will hang their hats on bringing intangibles to the game.

JV is a machine, a lot of drive, from what I can tell he does what he is supposed to do. He's like a robot.

Davis had a year of NBA style ball under Calipari and what stood out to me was how unselfish he is. He had every reason to have a big head and try to put up big numbers, but he knew he wasn't the best offensive player on Kentucky and willingly passed the ball. He likes to play defense and share the rock. He has great instincts.

Davis has Hall of Fame potential. Valanciunas has all-star potential.

In terms of how low they can go...I think NOH will have to really screw up not to get confidence and production out of Davis, whereas I could easily see Valanciunas becoming lost in a different style of basketball from what he is used to.

He's coming into a team that wants to win which could mean some early trips to the bench and a lot of 8 minute games just like the Olympics. I think he might be a tad overrated at the moment and I'm not sure Casey and the Raps will have the patience to bring him along slowly if that is what he needs.
Now that is a ridiculous statement.
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Idiot? He said Songalia was better tactically - and the dude had a great game and was a major reason they were with the USA in the 4th. Is Lithuania supposed to be trying to win or trying to give JV experience?
Well, considering the one game no one was complaining about was the US game because in that case (entirely unlike every other game) it was clearly tactical, I don't know what point you are trying to make here.
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Davis has the potential to be the best ever, not just hall of fame. He could very well be a superior version of KG at the end of the day. Not likely, but given his unique body and reputation for hard work and character, that's his upper limit. He has all the tools to succeed, it's up to him from here on.
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