Let The Good Times Roll - Pre-Draft Workouts Begin
Old 05-27-2008, 10:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Alrighty, with the draft under a month away the fun begins with all the workouts and still lots of rumblings regarding BC trading that pick too.

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Bryan Colangelo has much more to do than just check out potential Raptors as the NBA's pre-draft camp begins today in Florida.

"For me, it's a chance to initiate or follow up on some trade discussions as well," Toronto's president and general manager said in a telephone interview yesterday.

"It's like a basketball convention."

Colangelo, along with coach Sam Mitchell and a raft of front-office and scouting personnel, are descending on the camp with a variety of things to get done. It is no secret Toronto will be trying to set the parameters for a trade involving one of its point guards. There are free agents to talk about and a handful of high-powered agents are also planning to be in Orlando.

"Your basketball staff can mingle with the staffs of other teams and perhaps get some information on what teams might be thinking," the GM said. "It seems everyone is picking everyone else's brains."
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Colangelo is holding his draft cards close to his vest, mainly because he'll be investigating trade possibilities for the No.17 pick and because there is expected to be a variety of different players available if he retains the selection.

There is a group of 12 to 14 players who have separated themselves at the top of the draft but, after that, there are upward of 20 who could be considered possibilities between the end of the 14-team lottery and the conclusion of the first round.

"You have to look at and say we have needs at a couple of different spots, (but) generally, you take the best basketball player that's available," the GM said.

"Selecting someone at 17 and think they'll be actually contributing next year might be a bit far-fetched," he added.
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But whatever decision he makes with that pick will affect some long-term moves. If, for example, he finds a swingman he projects as a starter after one season coming off the bench, it could have an impact on future contract negotiations with free agents this summer or with, for example, Anthony Parker when his contract runs out at the end of the 2008-09 season.

If Colangelo decides to take a big man with the draft pick, he might feel comfortable trying to trade Rasho Nesterovic during the season if he sees the rookie developing.

Everything done around this time of year is tied into some other possible transaction.
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Old 05-27-2008, 10:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Barring some blockbuster trade, the Raptors have no use for the 17th slot.

If recent history is any indication, players taken 17th overall have had a marginal impact, in some cases none at all.

This decade alone, names such as Desmond Mason, Michael Bradley, whom the Raptors took in 2001, Juan Dixon, Zarko Cabarkapa, Josh Smith, Danny Granger, who was taken one pick after Toronto selected Joey Graham, Shawne Williams and Sean Williams have been plucked at No. 17.

The Raptors want to build around their franchise player, but the window to surround Chris Bosh with competent bodies is closing fast.

When the summer of 2010 arrives, Bosh, LeBron James and Dwyane Wade, each heralded members of the 2003 draft class, will be free agents.

The Knicks are said to be loading up for King James. Wade is in danger of playing for a rebuilding Miami Heat team, while Bosh continues to wait for that legitimate post or wing player who can take some of the burden off of his shoulders.

The Raptors will not accomplish it by holding on to the 17th draft slot.

Even though no major move will be made this week by any team, the behind-the-scenes work of planting a trade seed, and discussing options to move up, down or out of the draft will have a major impact on how the rest of the off-season unfolds.

Up until today, most of the talk was conducted over the phone. Today, it's face to face.
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Old 05-27-2008, 10:50 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Exactly ACIE and its no secret that we have a tendency of drafting poorly in drafts. Especially those mid first rounders.

Trade that pick in a package BC. Don't settle and use it. :mad:
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we all know that that pick HAS to be traded in some sort of package... its a no brainer.
we cant sit idly by while the rest of the east gets stronger.
something has to be done to give us an edge or improve us to be a top tier eastern team again... cause the way it looks now; we are on the outside looking in.
seriously though, one of our PGs (hopefully TJ), the 17th pick, and Bargs - that should get us something very good in return.
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its no secret that we have a tendency of drafting poorly in drafts.
LOL.

Anyway, shouldn't that be changing? I mean, we now have a new front office, right? A better one, right? One that is actually capable of recognizing talent better than the old regimes, right?

P.S. Apparently, Ernie Grunfeld agrees: http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...able_at_no_18/

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LOL.

Anyway, shouldn't that be changing? I mean, we now have a new front office, right? A better one, right? One that is actually capable of recognizing talent better than the old regimes, right?

P.S. Apparently, Ernie Grunfeld agrees: http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...able_at_no_18/
Well, the jury's still out on BC and his scouting staff's abililties seeing how the only 1st rounder he's drafted was Bargnani and so far that's been a "dandy" of a selection.

So, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now and see what he does next month before I lump him in with the likes of GG, Babcock and company.
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Why not use the #17 pick if there's a decent player on the board? (Lopez, Batum, Green)? You're try to build a solid core for years to come.
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if Batum is still around at #17, i would definitely be happy with that pick... the kid looks like he could be a big time player.
the only problem is that he's another euro prospect and BC might get destroyed if this pick goes awry and fails.
the smartest thing BC can do is trade this pick. the pressure of another flop will be disasterous.
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Old 05-27-2008, 12:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
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hey, if a trade come come our way which is in our favour, then by all means: make the trade.

At the same time, it's never a bad thing to be drafting the first round. never.

And also, i hope that Colangelo never makes moves based on what he thinks media or public perception will be. He should stick with his gut.
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