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Dark Knight 09-26-2011 08:09 PM

Leandro Barbosa
 
Am I the only one that constantly forgets that he's on our team? :reporter:

When he is healthy, he is a very good player. Here's hoping that he gets back to the form he had in Phoenix. :cheers2:

LX 09-26-2011 08:46 PM

You mean the one or two years he had in Phoenix? I have to admit I enjoyed him then. But that was all about him being just about the only option while he was on the floor. I question whether he could still be effective in that kind of role, or whether it is the kind of role this team needs. Maybe he could develop a nice chemistry with a guy like Bayless.

carp 09-26-2011 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LX (Post 572902)
You mean the one or two years he had in Phoenix? I have to admit I enjoyed him then. But that was all about him being just about the only option while he was on the floor. I question whether he could still be effective in that kind of role, or whether it is the kind of role this team needs. Maybe he could develop a nice chemistry with a guy like Bayless.

one or two years?

I think Barbosa is our most skilled wing at the moment.... kind of sad, but he'd be an ideal offensive player off the bench for a successful team.

http://www.nba.com/home/playerfile/l...eer_stats.html

js12 09-26-2011 09:17 PM

He's good as gone. Remember, he is going to be a free agent in the coming year. Possibly we already seen the last of him in a Raptor uniform with the lockout.

LX 09-26-2011 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by carp (Post 572903)
one or two years?

I think Barbosa is our most skilled wing at the moment.... kind of sad, but he'd be an ideal offensive player off the bench for a successful team.

Leandro Barbosa Career Stats Page | NBA.com

Yeah - one or two years where he managed to be more than a one-dimensional player that was hard to fit into a system. To me, an ideal player off the bench is able to do more than one thing over and over, even if that one thing is pretty remarkable. For a couple of seasons he could light things up off the bench one night, and be one of many scoring threats on another night. That took a lot of work to keep him disciplined and fully integrated with that team, and it was invaluable with their 8-man rotation. But when he settled into predictable patterns, he started to hurt his team on too many nights, even while putting up decent numbers. His numbers started to come t the expense of other contributors.

'trane 09-26-2011 09:53 PM

black hole

LX 09-26-2011 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 'trane (Post 572916)
black hole

And he had his moment as a white dwarf.

LKeet6 09-27-2011 07:47 AM

i think he was useful a lot more often than he hurt us last season, and he wasn't 100% a lot of the time.

I like his attitude, he'll get you points, couple of assists (would love 3 or even 4, he's got the IQ to do it.)

black hole is harsh for me but i must admit there's some truth to it. He did really frustrate me at times and the 1 dimensional thing is kind of true as well, if the shot is off give us something else leandro, like assists.

could well be he is a better fit as a role guy on a contender. Another nice young piece for him could be good, or even could that be a way to get the vet C? wouldn't get held to ransom on wages there, our choice. any suggestions?

Shifty.py 09-27-2011 08:37 AM

His speed and shooting weren't 100% last year, but I really lilked his effort on D.
Casey could insert him in the starting lineup right away (Bayless, Barbosa, Derozan, Amir, Davis)

Admiral 09-27-2011 05:01 PM

he runs none of the coach's plays on offense, he just runs the "I dribble around until I feel like shooting" play and everyone else runs around wondering what play it is

not good on a team that is already young and confused

INSIDER 09-27-2011 06:08 PM

he doesnt fit on this team and I hope he's gone when the Raps finally start playing again...
I like him, but he isnt the type of guy I want running on the floor with youngsters and developing players.
He needs to be on a playoff team that has talent, so that he can help them out with scoring... but for us, he'd just hog the ball and hurt our growth.

DanH 09-27-2011 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Admiral (Post 573005)
he runs none of the coach's plays on offense, he just runs the "I dribble around until I feel like shooting" play and everyone else runs around wondering what play it is

not good on a team that is already young and confused

Quote:

Originally Posted by INSIDER (Post 573013)
he doesnt fit on this team and I hope he's gone when the Raps finally start playing again...
I like him, but he isnt the type of guy I want running on the floor with youngsters and developing players.
He needs to be on a playoff team that has talent, so that he can help them out with scoring... but for us, he'd just hog the ball and hurt our growth.

And a plus one for you both.

jeffb 09-27-2011 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral (Post 573005)
he runs none of the coach's plays on offense, he just runs the "I dribble around until I feel like shooting" play and everyone else runs around wondering what play it is

not good on a team that is already young and confused

I think that we now have an actual coach that might change. Let's hope.

carp 09-28-2011 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Shifty.py (Post 572951)
His speed and shooting weren't 100% last year, but I really lilked his effort on D.
Casey could insert him in the starting lineup right away (Bayless, Barbosa, Derozan, Amir, Davis)

That is a bottom-feeding starting five for years to come....

Chiggmo 09-28-2011 09:41 AM

Over rated black hole.

Ligeia 09-28-2011 11:37 AM

I was also repeatedly frustrated watching Barbosa play last year. On a team like this, any scoring was obviously appreciated, but I didn't see how it was doing anything to actually help the team. There was much less execution on offense and I felt like the young team had a tendency to get lost. Also, on a team where players are trying to establish themselves and get game experience, it sucks watching the ball disappear in someone's hands.

BballWatcher 09-28-2011 03:25 PM

He's a solid bench player but that's it. He's probably good as gone.

GrannyFro 09-28-2011 03:47 PM

there's nothing barbosa does that quincy douby couldn't do high on grass for a fraction of the price

'trane 09-28-2011 03:51 PM

except keeping a nice clean area between the eyebrows.

jeffb 09-28-2011 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GrannyFro (Post 573186)
there's nothing barbosa does that quincy douby couldn't do high on grass for a fraction of the price

Really? Well if he can come in and score 13-15ppg off the bench, giddy up!


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