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Old 01-17-2009, 10:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I just registered but have been coming here to simply read the forum every game for the past 2 months. But honestly what I've seen from so called fans is disgusting. You may call me whatever you want but the majority of you guys here know nothing about being a fan. It's people like you guys who chased Vince away and are probably gonna chase Bosh away too. Instead of standing by your star through thick and thin you bash Chris for having one bad play despite keeping us in the game during 4 quarters. If you guys seriously want this franchise to go on, then I suggest you treat Bosh better because I can assure if he goes we will not get Lebron, Wade or any good player to replace him, especially with fans like you guys.
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:49 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thank you. Where all the Haters when Bosh was dropping 30+ points through the first 15 games?
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Old 01-17-2009, 12:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Welcome to RF!

As much as i agree with you I have to say the one good thing out of all the negativity is that there is a common passion for the team. Most Raptor fans aren't stupid like leaf fans who cheer and support shit teams for 40+ years.
I think there is too much hate but I understand the frustration. We suck right now. Trust me if we were 20-0 at home like the Cavs Bosh would be raised up like Lebron.
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Old 01-17-2009, 12:54 PM   #5 (permalink)
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bosh is severy underperforming in his leadership qualities. This team needs Bosh to be a leader too, not just a guy who scores 24 points every game. If Bosh can't handle criticism, then he should go somewhere where fans don't mind when he mails games, despite making 2-3 millions for every game played.
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Old 01-17-2009, 12:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Best post I've read in a while.

Bravo.
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Old 01-17-2009, 12:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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bosh is severy underperforming in his leadership qualities. This team needs Bosh to be a leader too, not just a guy who scores 24 points every game. If Bosh can't handle criticism, then he should go somewhere where fans don't mind when he mails games, despite making 2-3 millions for every game played.
I dunno how much you think were paying Chris but he doesn't make 2-3 million per game. If he made 2 mil a game he would make 164 million per year.
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Old 01-17-2009, 12:58 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I just registered but have been coming here to simply read the forum every game for the past 2 months. But honestly what I've seen from so called fans is disgusting. You may call me whatever you want but the majority of you guys here know nothing about being a fan. It's people like you guys who chased Vince away and are probably gonna chase Bosh away too. Instead of standing by your star through thick and thin you bash Chris for having one bad play despite keeping us in the game during 4 quarters. If you guys seriously want this franchise to go on, then I suggest you treat Bosh better because I can assure if he goes we will not get Lebron, Wade or any good player to replace him, especially with fans like you guys.
so you want us to be happy with incompetence?

All we ask is to win one playoff round to start, then build on it.

If you demand results you get results. Its tough love.
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Old 01-17-2009, 01:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
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+1 great post Nyall.
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Old 01-17-2009, 01:10 PM   #10 (permalink)
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so you want us to be happy with incompetence?

All we ask is to win one playoff round to start, then build on it.

If you demand results you get results. Its tough love.
And us not getting to the second round is Bosh's fault alone?

Lol.
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And us not getting to the second round is Bosh's fault alone?

Lol.
I was talkin bout the team, I got away from the topic a bit.
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Old 01-17-2009, 03:26 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Great post ... you can add Toronto mass-media, they are the ones who actually makes the worst of it. As CB4 said, fans don't realized how much matters for them when they have the fans cheering for them not booing.
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Old 01-17-2009, 03:36 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Thank you... Bosh has been playing better d lately, I like his effort. The problem with this team is the wings and general thinnes from JO's contract...

This Bosh/Bargnani thing has potential to eat children in a few years guys... have patience
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I just registered but have been coming here to simply read the forum every game for the past 2 months. But honestly what I've seen from so called fans is disgusting. You may call me whatever you want but the majority of you guys here know nothing about being a fan. It's people like you guys who chased Vince away and are probably gonna chase Bosh away too. Instead of standing by your star through thick and thin you bash Chris for having one bad play despite keeping us in the game during 4 quarters. If you guys seriously want this franchise to go on, then I suggest you treat Bosh better because I can assure if he goes we will not get Lebron, Wade or any good player to replace him, especially with fans like you guys.
Oh my!

I'm not sure if you know this, but players don't give a SHIT about fans. Period. On the list of important things, it's like #10. Fans didn't chase Carter out of Toronto, piss poor decision making by Grunwald, allowing Carter too much influence when re-signing two bad players started the ball rolling, then the losses and conflicts with the coaching staff made it worse.

Fans.

You have to be kidding me man!

Guys on message board think nothing they see happened before they came to be, fans have been dumping on Star players for centuries, hell in the first real arena's for public sport the fans decided whether the losers lived or died. Thats the problems with sport today, fans have too little influence on the game. I wonder if guys would come ready to play if at the end of the year, a hand chosen core of 5000 season ticket holder were the ones to decide on the value of thier contract. Think loose balls would go unchallenged? Picks go un-set?

A professional sports athlete's job is to perform and entertain. Period. Someplace along the way some people got the idea that somehow we owe the players something, why? We pay, they play. Thik they aren't compensated nicely for it? Do you thnk that we should be happy about poor performances? Should we sit back and say "hey, we should just felt greatful that they let us watch?

If so, kudo's to pro sports marketing and management because they have you all hooked, BAD.

I'm not a bad fan, I watch, they get my ratings, and because of that, they get the advertizing buck, and tv contract that makes what should be a 1-200,000 dollar contract into 1-2,000,000 dollars. I do my part, they owe me to do thiers.

Why is this so hard for so many to understand? Are you that in awe? Maybe you are, and that scool, but take it from an older guy fella's, these guys ain't gods, they ain't special, they are just jocks, whjo are good at a specific sport. Dunking a basketball isn't hard, nor is hitting a 3.
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