Kapono Likely to Start Over Moon?
Old 09-04-2008, 10:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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According to Doug and his sources, the impressions that are being made so far this summer in conversations is that Kapono will get some serious consideration over Moon starting at the SF spot. What do you guys think? Good or bad move at this point?

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Without having spoken about it at length with Sam, or any member of the coaching staff for that matter, the feeling I got from brief conversations is that they’ll take a very long look at Kapono at the small forward rather than Moon.

The thinking, as far as I can tell, is that Kapono’s play in the playoffs – where the three-point ace actually took three-pointers – was exactly the kind of shooting they’ll need with both Bosh and O’Neal commanding so much attention inside.

Of course, this could all go out the window when they start pre-season games but that seems to be the rationale at the moment.
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I think good if Adams starts over AP.

This way it might save a little wear and tear on AP and I think Adams is the better defender, and also he definatley takes it to the hole alot more.

This wolod creat alot more balance on the roster with

JO
Bosh
Kaps
Adams
Jose

With main subs as
Andrea
Ap
Moon
Ukic
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I'd rather have Kapono start this season.having Moon coming off the bench should allow to be more aggressive vs other teams second unity while also adding defence to the second unit.

And surrounding CB4/JO/Calderon with three point threats like Kapono and AP is a good balance.I like it.Let's just hope Kapono gets some touches and doesn't start off this season like he did last season when he was given the starting job.They to draw up plays for him,and get him open shots b/c he's money.

Lineup would be:

Caledron/Ukic/Solomon
AP/Adams
Kapono/Moon/Graham
Bosh/Bargnani
JO/Bargnani/Humphries/Jawai

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I like the notion of Kapono starting at the three. Especially with the big two holding the fort down low - it should translate into some double teams resuliting in some open shats for our three-point specialist. Also more rebounds equals more offensive oppotunities.

Personally though - i'd rather have Parker starting to give us a real offensive juggernaut (sp?). That lineup can give any team fits.

But then again, our second unit looks a little weak. Mind you - most of the time, at least three of our starters always going to on the floor at a given time...
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Adams in starting lineup? for balance?
I heard great stuff about Adams, but... start him?

Kapono should get some time at SG whether he starts or not.
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:39 AM   #6 (permalink)
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With two "bigs" on the inside, i think it would be foolish not to start Kap. Also Moon is so overrated i find it sickening, he is due for a crap year.
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Adams in starting lineup? for balance?
I heard great stuff about Adams, but... start him?

Kapono should get some time at SG whether he starts or not.
Only for to save on AP.

With Jose and Kaps team has great shooters
Bosh has a great midrange
JO is great on the block

What is needed is a slashing, defending wing. Adams.

AP Would still play 30 a night, just like Manu in SA, just would have to start the game defending best player on other team and it would save him some gas for the 4th quarter.
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Only for to save on AP.

With Jose and Kaps team has great shooters
Bosh has a great midrange
JO is great on the block

What is needed is a slashing, defending wing. Adams.

AP Would still play 30 a night, just like Manu in SA, just would have to start the game defending best player on other team and it would save him some gas for the 4th quarter.
I revise my initial stance. you're onto something snooch. The only thing is that Adams is relatively unproven in the NBA. If he can be like Moon last year then i'm all for it.
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I revise my initial stance. you're onto something snooch. The only thing is that Adams is relatively unproven in the NBA. If he can be like Moon last year then i'm all for it.
If he can play aggressive defense and take it to the hole.
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I wouldn't start Adams over AP. Save AP? Unless Adams shows me something really special in pre-season to warrant him starting over AP, I'd start AP. Besides, you start AP, and he performs well, he's a decent bargaining chip.
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I dont think we need more pllayers to get into the lane with Bosh and JO operating on the low block to free throw line. having someone slash with those two on the floor could effect spacing and ball movement. this team is at their best when they're swinging the ball arounf the perimeter for open looks. AP is by far the best corner three point shooter we have outside of kapono, and sacrificing him for adams in the starting line-up means sacrificing a deadly threat from the outside, opening up the lane for Bosh and JO to operate. whomever's guarding adams can cheat a lot more because he hasn't proven he can hit the outside shot, let alone play hard for 82 games at this level.
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I wouldn't start Adams over AP. Save AP? Unless Adams shows me something really special in pre-season to warrant him starting over AP, I'd start AP. Besides, you start AP, and he performs well, he's a decent bargaining chip.
What woud you trade AP for?
A shooting guard?
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Umm.. AP is a FA at the end of the season...it IS possible he does get dealt.
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I've been advocating Kapono starting since JO trade went down.

We don't have a "second unit" anymore...
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Hi Guys,

like a lot of you say, with Jason starting at the 3 we have very good inside/outside presence on the floor.

Jamario coming of the bench together with Hassan give us two athletic wings, solid d and with Bags they should be able to get us some points as well

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The five best guys on any night, or a rotation that works......

You don't really know until you're up and rolling.

Guys are away right now, and they have off season work outs to follow, have to be in shape, all of that. If they don't show up ready to go, they will move down the ladder.

Maybe Adams comes in crazy aggressive, ripped, in shape, with his stroke working, then he moves up. Joey, Moon, Kaps.... they all have a chance, it ain't anyones to loose. I don't see Mitchell as a guy to have guys penciled in. He is all about earning your spot.

So is Kapono starting?

No.

Nobody aside from Calderon, Bosh, and O'Neal , and even they have to show up ready to go.
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Our second Unit wouldn't be bad with Moon/Bargnani/Adams and if Ukic can be a steady (not great) but a steady rookie and not try to do too much (just facilitate,slash to the rim).Then that second Unit could stand up and be pretty good.Moon also adds needed defence along w/Adams on that second Unit.

The good thing is our Points against per game should go down,and our top 8 players are all good scorers and very good shooters.Therefore IMo our starers have been upgraded with the addition of JO,our defence is much improve with his and Adams additions and our shooting with AP/Kapono/Calderon/Bargnani/Bosh is one of the best in the league as far as Shooting percentage in concerned.This is still a very efficient shooting team,with better defence.
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I think Jeff, that you all raise good points, however the game to game match ups will dictate the line up as well.
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i like the fact that kapono will start... look at what he did in miami when he had shaq in the paint.
same thing here, with JO and Bosh banging down low - kapono will be dangerous out behind the arc.
all he has to do is park and shoot.
moon can be a spark plug off the bench.
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I think Jeff, that you all raise good points, however the game to game match ups will dictate the line up as well.

To a degree yes but, the main 4 starters will remain Bosh/JO/Calderon/AP.So as for the match up it may switch between Moon/Kapono.But those four starters will be there 30-35 minutes per game and the main bench players will remain the same,Ukic/Bargnani/Adams/(Moon or Kapono).So in my honest opinion the match ups won't matter for the most part other than the 3 spot.
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