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Champuz 03-01-2009 06:11 PM

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moremilk 03-01-2009 06:20 PM

teams don't play defense because of the coaching. Milwaukee was considered a very poor defensive team before Skiles got there, and now they're much improved, with basically the same team (+ RJ).

N64 03-01-2009 06:28 PM

wait...i don't get what you're saying...did JVD say he's gonna coach a team that's not playing defense right now?

LX 03-01-2009 08:04 PM

It's pretty obvious that there's no requirement to be accountable as an individual defender here since Jay took over. Some would say that doesn't mean they don't play defense, but to a guy like JVG it does in fact mean just that.

moremilk 03-01-2009 09:10 PM

I think it's pretty obvious that players are not scared of triano. Whether they feel he's just a subsitute teacher, or it's a result of jay being a "players' coach", or our players are just natural born lazy - right now it's just a huge mess on the court.

Personally, I lean toward the lather, in my experiencer 99.99999% of human beings are lazy by birth, and need serious motivation to give their best. Sam's motivator was fear, which is just about the worth kind. But it's still was better than nothing ...

Xeon 03-01-2009 11:13 PM

Did anyone hear JVD telling the other commentators that Shaq didn't find the fountain of youth but the fountain of Toronto? lol

zachus 03-02-2009 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by moremilk (Post 152308)
I think it's pretty obvious that players are not scared of triano. Whether they feel he's just a subsitute teacher, or it's a result of jay being a "players' coach", or our players are just natural born lazy - right now it's just a huge mess on the court.

Personally, I lean toward the lather, in my experiencer 99.99999% of human beings are lazy by birth, and need serious motivation to give their best. Sam's motivator was fear, which is just about the worth kind. But it's still was better than nothing ...

Yeah, definitely don't think respect out of fear is a healthy form of respect. IF you can even call it respect.

HoopsMachine 03-02-2009 08:45 AM

That's the truth... we don't play defense. We get lost on pindowns/curls, call switches that causes mismatches since we're too lazy to fight through the screen, and we allow way too much dribble penetration. And if the opposition hasn't made the shot, our defense is already scrambled up and out of place making it easier to hustle for offensive boards.

Shifty.py 03-02-2009 09:02 AM

There are teams that don't play defense and there is Toronto that doesn't know how to play defense.

bjjs 03-02-2009 10:08 AM

There isn't any direction on defense. When we do play hard, we're wasting energy, flying out on guys who can't shoot, and helping on guys that you want taking shots. Jay said first thing that he's going to focus on the Raptors and not their opponents, and he's done just that. I'm not sure if our players even look at a scouting report anymore.


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