Juan Dixon or Will Soloman at the PG
Old 01-06-2009, 09:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Who would you rather have playing the PG position right now, Dixon or Soloman?
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Dixon is not a PG, he couldn't fill that role last year when TJ was injured and Sam tried Dixon at PG. I rather have Solomon, at least he can play some games quite well at PG. Too bad Solomon has nights off with too many TO and/or going on shooting spree without success.
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what I'm trying to say here is that Soloman has the mind and mentality of a 13 year-old.
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Maybe Solomon is to nervous at times, but I can't see how you came up with "has the mind and mentality of a 13 year-old" ... He just need to calm down and gain some confidence. If Jose is out for an extended period of time, we really need Solomon to step up big way otherwise Raptors will have a lottery pick this year. On the other hand, Dixon can't handle properly the ball at point and he doesn't have a floor general vision. We are better off even with Roko than Dixon at PG.
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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to me, will is tj without the talent. he has the selfishness, but w/out the skill to penetrate. Solo - selfish man - man
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Both are SGs in a PGs body. Dixon though has the experience of being a PG in this league and has understood his position for quite some time. Solomon simply, well, sorry has assimilated himself to the European game and refuses to leave it. He really doesn't run a team all that well ut I'll lay off the guy right now. They both are terrible right now.
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Old 01-06-2009, 10:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Dixon, although he seemed to struggle when we had him at point, but he seems more savvy and aware of game situations than Solo=man...plus he won't be putting up as many shots as Bosh in a game. They're both shoot first point guards (aka SG's). I've liked what Will's done the past couple games but the guy is painful to watch...he needs to go back to the kiddie's pool
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This is how I think of Will's mindset: "I want to be recognized, I want to be a primary asset to this team."

I knew something was up when he gave that smile after the win against Orlando. He desperately wants to win the fans back, to compensate for his brutal earlier, but most of the time, he just does too much and results in more ugliness. Anyone who plays in the NBA knows (or should know) the importance of giving the ball to the star player of the team at crunch time. And, unfortunately, he thought he needs to prove himself as a important player to the team by making a few shots here and there. But what he doesn't understand is that we don't want him to prove himself: we just want him to goddam bring the ball up the court, and just making wing passes/entry passes effectively, and maybe play some defense. We don't need another scorer, we could go to Bargs, Bosh, or even Parker when it comes to scoring. So I'm guessing that he thinks his "supposed" role is too plain and mundane.

The guy needs to slow down, chew his food, and only swallow what he has in his mouth.
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:02 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Who would you rather have playing the PG position right now, Dixon or Soloman?
Delfino?? lol
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:05 PM   #10 (permalink)
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^id take that girl in your avy to the run the point...
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
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This is a no brainer. Will hands down over Dixon ! Choices would be Solomon, then Roko. In our last game we saw Roko start to crack, hence the reason Will went in to finish. I would not even consider bringing back Dixon or TJ, hell both these guys are getting alot burn on the bench right now.
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:13 PM   #12 (permalink)
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^id take that girl in your avy to the run the point...
Just imagine that. All the players would watch here... So would I
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Old 01-07-2009, 12:15 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Dixon was garbage, Solomon is better at the point for shure.
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Old 01-07-2009, 04:41 AM   #15 (permalink)
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This is how I think of Will's mindset: "I want to be recognized, I want to be a primary asset to this team."
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And, unfortunately, he thought he needs to prove himself as a important player to the team by making a few shots here and there. But what he doesn't understand is that we don't want him to prove himself: we just want him to goddam bring the ball up the court, and just making wing passes/entry passes effectively, and maybe play some defense.
Everyone in the NBA wants to be recognized especially when you play for 700K a year and do that just to settle in the NBA. He would have made at least three times better than that had he stayed in Euro zone. A pg is not about bringing the ball up court but that is an essential part of the job. BTW Solomon did everything you said about defending and passing well. When your opponents know you have a PG that never thinks of shooting it is much easier to defend. A player without confidence is easy to chew. I don't know if you read one of the Phil Jackson's books called Sacred Hoops. He says you have to give to the ball to your worst shooter and let him shoot when he is open, every time. That's how you become a team and play in harmony.

Besides, imagine Ukic missing the last shot that he made against Orlando. Nobody says he did wrong because he made the shot. If Solomon made the three pointer which was in-and-out, this thread would not exist. That said, I had warned you all about Solomon that he'd do some very stupid mistakes but overall he is good for his team. Too bad we don't have a SG/SF that can dribble and penetrate. We are deer in the headlights when they lock Bosh and Bargnani.
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Old 01-07-2009, 07:18 AM   #16 (permalink)
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This is stupid, the past three games Will has been unselfish, yet aggresive and confident when he is called upon to take a shot. That's what you want from the pg position.
Misguided criticism because we lost a game.

He passed the ball to Bosh and Bargs on both possessions where he ended up shooting the ball at the end of the game against Milwaukee. They passed it back, he was open.

Solomon has been very good the past three games, but everyone needs a scapegoat I guess. I choose Moon.

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I liked dixon but he couldn't run the point. Teams pressured him and he could hardly get the ball up the court, let alone initiate the offense. Later in the year we ended up with Delfino handling the ball.
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:15 AM   #18 (permalink)
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This is a stupid, the past three games Will has been unselfish, yet aggresive and confident when he is called upon to take a shot. That's what you want from the pg position.
Misguided criticism because we lost a game.

He passed the ball to Bosh and Bargs on both possessions where he ended up shooting the ball at the end of the game against Milwaukee. They passed it back, he was open.

Solomon has been very good the past three games, but everyone needs a scapegoat I guess. I choose Moon.
Sorry bjjs... I disagree.

Right now the difference that I see between Ukic and Solomon is that Ukic REFUSES to settle for the easy jumper. It's very possible that that's because he doesn't have Will's range but still.... it's annoying when Solomon takes more shots in the 4th than Bargs and Bosh.

MIL's gameplan was obviously to MAKE someone else shoot the ball but you can't just fall into that trap and play right into their hands.

When Ray Allen or Michael Redd or Kobe Bryant are 2/13 I tell them to keep shooting....

When Will Solomon is 2/13 I tell him to pass the fucking ball unless he's WIDE open (and by wide open I mean shooting spot-up 3s.. not off the dribble, contested shots).
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:32 AM   #19 (permalink)
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The reason this team has been playing well is because they've been sharing the basketball and all 5 guys on the court have been aggressive. When the star players are passing ball back to you with 12 on the shot clock, and you feel like you're open, you take the shot. Especially when it's been working for you as of late.

Like I said, we lost the game, so everyone is choosing to pick on Will. We win the game, all is forgotten.

And the difference isn't that Ukic doesn't choose to settle for the easy jumper, the difference is that Ukic can't shoot. Neither have been settling for anything. They're just different offensive players who have different strengths on that end of the court.

Soloman has been very sound in his decisiion making the past three games. Anyone who disagrees...DOESN'T KNOW BASKETBALL!! YEAH, I SAID IT!
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The reason this team has been playing well is because they've been sharing the basketball and all 5 guys on the court have been aggressive. When the star players are passing ball back to you with 12 on the shot clock, and you feel like you're open, you take the shot. Especially when it's been working for you as of late.

Like I said, we lost the game, so everyone is choosing to pick on Will. We win the game, all is forgotten.

And the difference isn't that Ukic doesn't choose to settle for the easy jumper, the difference is that Ukic can't shoot. Neither have been settling for anything. They're just different offensive players who have different strengths on that end of the court.

Soloman has been very sound in his decisiion making the past three games. Anyone who disagrees...DOESN'T KNOW BASKETBALL!! YEAH, I SAID IT!
Lol... he's been good for the most part.... but last game he was shaky offensively.

Again.... Will taking more shots than Bosh in the 4th is something that should NEVER happen. As a PG it's your responsibility to get your big guy the ball. Fuck, run a pick & roll with him at least... do SOMETHING.

As for Ukic and his lack of a shot.... Rondo cant' shoot a lick either but he's always playing at the end of games.. not House. And that's because he makes good decisions with the ball and knows his role.
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