Jose's Fatal Flaw
Old 12-22-2011, 07:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I tried not to cast too critical of an eye on the offense just yet. It's clearly not a point of emphasis, and rightly so. But through these two games, I've been reminded of why Jose is not starter material in the NBA, and why he hasn't been ever really. And it's not his hammy.

What really hamstrings him is his inability to handle pressure defense. It shuts him down. Game over. He becomes a useless whining mess.

This team is trying to move away from an over-reliance on set offense. That's just not going to have much of a chance with Jose at the helm. Over the last two seasons he was asked to move the ball up quickly and let the team look for early offense, but all that did was allow for far too many bad shots and poor floor balance. The defense was hurt that much more by that. From the day Jose first started, teams have figured out how to stop him, and he's had no real answer. He's just not a starter.
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Old 12-22-2011, 07:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Really?

Funny, when they had a good team he was considered a really good PG, now, he play on a team of absolute scrubs and he's not good enough to be a starter in the entire NBA.

Classic.
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Old 12-22-2011, 07:58 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Really?

Funny, when they had a good team he was considered a really good PG, now, he play on a team of absolute scrubs and he's not good enough to be a starter in the entire NBA.

Classic.

Good season? What was that, for a year or so when TJ Ford also here? Whatever! Besides, this isn't 2006.
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Old 12-22-2011, 08:07 AM   #4 (permalink)
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ya ya.... I'm not getting sucked in to these things anymore... you guys win.

Jose is terrible.
No idea how to play the game.
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Old 12-22-2011, 08:14 AM   #5 (permalink)
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ya ya.... I'm not getting sucked in to these things anymore... you guys win.

Jose is terrible.
No idea how to play the game.
Nah, you can be terrible and still have an idea.

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To be fair... Both of our point guards REALLY struggled to run the offense this preseason. I still hold to my opinion that we need to get our PG of the future outside the organization (draft, FA, trade) and still think Jose would be a great backup (he always has been) if signed to a smaller contract after he expires. Whereas Bayless has yet to show that he can be a good backup PG.
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Old 12-22-2011, 08:20 AM   #7 (permalink)
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To be fair... Both of our point guards REALLY struggled to run the offense this preseason. I still hold to my opinion that we need to get our PG of the future outside the organization (draft, FA, trade) and still think Jose would be a great backup (he always has been) if signed to a smaller contract after he expires. Whereas Bayless has yet to show that he can be a good backup PG.
Dude, if Jose is still here in two years I'll lose it, I don't care how much he'd be paid. We need to move on and I think he's gonna want a change as well. I do think that we'll get that PG next summer through trade which allows us to keep our capspace. I still say Bargs goes for a PG, especially if we're in the top 3-4 in the draft and decide to draft a big. We would then go after a SF + depth with our capspace.
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Old 12-22-2011, 09:12 AM   #8 (permalink)
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You want playoffs, you put in Bayless. You want boring and embarrasing season, with a chance of getting a slightly better rookie next summer, don't change a thing.
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Old 12-22-2011, 09:15 AM   #9 (permalink)
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How does Jose do for Spain??

Is he a starter there?? Like for one of the worlds best basketball teams?
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How does Jose do for Spain??

Is he a starter there?? Like for one of the worlds best basketball teams?
in Europe perhaps, but this over here, this is America.
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You want playoffs, you put in Bayless.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:07 AM   #12 (permalink)
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in Europe perhaps, but this over here, this is America.
Spain beat the U.S., and this over here, is Canada.
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I don't have really anything negative to say about Jose.. he is a true pg, but not a starter.. he would be one heck of a backup

the reason why he starts is because we haven't had a guy other then Jose who can play that position properly.. every player we bring in is a combo guard, bayless, jack.. Tj Ford was pretty good but got injured..

so until we find a true starting PG, Jose will continue to run the show

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Old 12-22-2011, 10:19 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Jose would be a good backup point guard.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:20 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Jose is just really slow and methodical and when he's pressured it really takes him WAAAY too long to setup near the key. He has huge problems just getting down the court, and has no chance getting any releif other then from screens.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:29 AM   #16 (permalink)
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How does Jose do for Spain??

Is he a starter there?? Like for one of the worlds best basketball teams?
...Ricky Rubio
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I don't have really anything negative to say about Jose.. he is a true pg, but not a starter.. he would be one heck of a backup

the reason why he starts is because we haven't had a guy other then Jose who can play that position properly.. every player we bring in is a combo guard, bayless, jack.. Tj Ford was pretty good but got injured..

so until we find a true starting PG, Jose will continue to run the show
He's been a backup and stunk.
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Old 12-22-2011, 11:49 AM   #18 (permalink)
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New coach, will take time, his offense will come around fine and has never been the problem.
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Old 12-22-2011, 11:56 AM   #19 (permalink)
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New coach, will take time, his offense will come around fine and has never been the problem.

What offense? He's a 9-10ppg starting PG.

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Old 12-22-2011, 12:12 PM   #20 (permalink)
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You can't have Jose playing beside Demar until one of them becomes a lock-down defender..... so you can't have Jose playing beside Demar.
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