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LX 07-28-2008 10:00 PM

Jose's Coach in Spain Focused on D
 
This could be great news since it's just what Jose needs to work on.
From Jose's Blog:

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After our first match against Russia, I did not want to write my impressions on the web until I was sure of how we were. After Russia, we played three more games and now I think that I have a more accurate opinion. I see the team in a very good situation and I have the sensation that with our extensive rotations, we all are able to contribute. In every game a different player steps up and makes a difference. We are playing well and above all, I believe that our defensive level is very high. I have always heard comments about Aitoís capacity to obtain the maximum defensive intensity on his teams, and I had never been coached by him before. Now I realize that he is capable of obtaining the maximum effort from his players in all facets of the game, without making exhaustive training and practices, nor taking the players to their capacity limit. Today I also noticed his ability to coach calmly during our game against Argentina when we were a little hotheaded. He was very aware of the situation and lowered the teamís level of anxiety.

Belsius 07-29-2008 06:34 AM

Hes the best coach in the history of Spain for a reason. Everywhere he goes he builds a great team specially on defense. The way Ricky Rubio and Rudy Fernandez defend is the proof.

rapsfan087 07-29-2008 08:24 AM

Aito likes the fast breaks, so he uses good defence to get it.

Dr. J. Naismith 07-29-2008 08:45 AM

God, how wonderful would that be if Jose can improve his already pathetic defense. Working on his lateral quickness is the key. Arms and hands he's quick enough, but he was exposed waaaay too often last season when moving side to side. :(

Snooch 07-29-2008 09:05 AM

With the other improvements Jose has made in his game in the past I dont think that there is any reason to beleive that he cannot continue to improve, especially on the defensive end.

Superjudge 07-29-2008 09:55 AM

Does Jose write that?

If so, Jesus, I'm in love all over again.

MikeToronto 07-29-2008 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. J. Naismith (Post 46662)
...if Jose can improve his already pathetic defense...

Horrible use of the word "already" aside - we need a defensive coordinator. Truly, we do. Come to think of it, we need one for offence as well.

We've had these discussions last season, the season before last, and, in fact, as far back as the first year of Sam's tenure - the guy is a motivator, but not an Xs and Os coach. We need someone who can establish a team defensive scheme that hides players' defficiencies instead of magnifying them. I believe that both Kapono and Calderon are good enough team defenders and it has been corroborated by their play for the Heat and Spanish national team respectively. If the Raps ever manage to realize just how weak their coaching staff really is... Actually, this could be the season as I don't think BC can improve much on the current roster. ;)

Belsius 07-29-2008 10:10 AM

http://josemanuelcalderon.com/indexEN.html

Superjudge 07-29-2008 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeToronto (Post 46695)
Horrible use of the word "already" aside - we need a defensive coordinator. Truly, we do. Come to think of it, we need one for offence as well.

We've had these discussions last season, the season before last, and, in fact, as far back as the first year of Sam's tenure - the guy is a motivator, but not an Xs and Os coach. We need someone who can establish a team defensive scheme that hides players' defficiencies instead of magnifying them. I believe that both Kapono and Calderon are good enough team defenders and it has been corroborated by their play for the Heat and Spanish national team respectively. If the Raps ever manage to realize just how weak their coaching staff really is... Actually, this could be the season as I don't think BC can improve much on the current roster. ;)

Funny.

Nobody says shit about the team defence or offensive cohesiveness when they Raptors show up motivated to actually try, and play some of the most beautiful basketball I've seen in years. Nope. Those games are flukes where the stars align and the team just plays fundamentally perfect ball by mistake.

King Shake 07-29-2008 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Superjudge (Post 46702)
Funny.

Nobody says shit about the team defence or offensive cohesiveness when they Raptors show up motivated to actually try, and play some of the most beautiful basketball I've seen in years. Nope. Those games are flukes where the stars align and the team just plays fundamentally perfect ball by mistake.

Do you know Sam Mitchell or something? The guy is a motivator and think a bit of an X's and O's coach, but he's a n00b at that. He can't adjust when things go wrong. Example, last years playoff series against Orlando or the year before that against Jersey. He has trouble taking time outs at the correct time, he doesn't adjust, he has no creativity. Mitchell isn't a bad coach, but he is far from a very good coach. He has a a lot of flaws and I think, if this year the Raptors aren't a good 8-10 games over .500 through the whole season, he'll be let go.

Snooch 07-29-2008 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by King Shake (Post 46706)
Do you know Sam Mitchell or something? The guy is a motivator and think a bit of an X's and O's coach, but he's a n00b at that. He can't adjust when things go wrong. Example, last years playoff series against Orlando or the year before that against Jersey. He has trouble taking time outs at the correct time, he doesn't adjust, he has no creativity. Mitchell isn't a bad coach, but he is far from a very good coach. He has a a lot of flaws and I think, if this year the Raptors aren't a good 8-10 games over .500 through the whole season, he'll be let go.

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Superjudge 07-29-2008 10:37 AM

you lost me at Noob.

Sorry< i don't think he's the best.

but he is enough to get a team to the conference finals if its a good one.

MikeToronto 07-29-2008 11:13 AM

Best coaches get the most out of their teams, not just ride great players to success.

Or do you think Rivers is a better coach than Jackson?

Superjudge 07-29-2008 11:22 AM

I think Boston had better talent.

Adequate Swag 07-29-2008 11:27 AM

I can live with criticism of Smith's offensive x's and o's, although I think even those are overblown. Simply saying "bad offense" or "bad x's and o's" isnt legitimate criticism. Provide specific examples and reasoning and have a better alternative if you want to be taken seriously (not speaking to this thread specifically, but to the countless lazy Smitch critics in general)

Regardless though, I don't see how Smitch's defensive coaching, x's and o's or otherwise, can be fairly criticized. The guy has never had any semblance of defensive talent on his team. You could put any defesive guru of a coach you wanted on the Raptors staff for the past 3 years, that's still going to be a below average defensive team.

Now he's added an All-NBA defender, which is going to give him a much better oppurtunity to show his skills as a defensive coach.

People hate on Smitch as though we've had a championship caliber team here over his tenure. The Raptors defense was better than it should have been based on personnel last year, and despite the so called flaws in Smitch's offense they continue to be a quality offensive team statistically.

And it's nice to hear that Jose's coach is stressing defensive intensity, but I wouldn't expect Jose to come back as any type of lockdown defender. Smitch stresses defensive intensity just as much as the next guy, so I don't think a month with a different coach playing a different brand of ball is going to drastically change anything about Jose's game.

MikeToronto 07-29-2008 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superjudge (Post 46787)
I think Boston had better talent.

Agreed. Talent helps, no question, but I like coaches who are capable of getting the most out of the players they've got by utilizing the game plan that takes advantage of their strengths and masks their weaknesses.

If you have weak individual defenders on your team, it's pointless to preach personal responsibility to them - they simply CAN'T stay between their men and the basket. Instead, the coach should implement a system of help defense designed to, for instance, channel the driver towards the baseline where a big should be waiting.

BTW, Boston played some inspired team defence all season long.

King Shake 07-29-2008 11:27 AM

Obviously Boston had better talent. The coach is part of it, but the players are huge. I mean, they play the game. KG and Allen changed everything. PP was so motivated he played like the Pierce of old. Rivers is like SMitch, I just think a bit better.

LX 07-29-2008 04:27 PM

Boston had everyone playing according to personal responsibility. What they managed to do extremely well was clog things up as a team. And they had the personnel to do just that. Which meant that weak or strong defenders alike could focus on their personal responsibility, as well as looking to stopping the ball even if it means leaving their man. The key in my eyes is realizing the point of commitment in terms of help. There has to be a good balance between defending the ball and your man. Help too much or too soon and you're just allowing your guy to go off. Stay too close to your man constantly and you're letting down your team on penetration.

Boston held down the paint very well, with everyone sticking a toe in there at once quite often, and then being ready to rotate out to the perimeter on the pass, or collapse further on penetration. And you know what? They gave up a ton of shots. They allowed the Lakers to make some big comebacks, when the shots were falling. They ultimately did very much of the same things the Raptors did. The Raptors did a good job of making teams settle for shots from third options, by working well as a team. What absolutely killed them on defense happened almost exclusively early in the shot clock, and you need look not much further than Jose who just offered zero initial resistance to ballhandlers in transition, while the bigs were just too soft and unable to work together to close things down in a hurry on those occasions. Guys like AP would then have to commit to helping way too early, and things would look ugly from there. And that allowed opposing teams to play comfortably whether they were hitting shots or not.

Hell - look at Boston in the playoffs some more and you'll see they also had some of the same problems on the road. When the Raps faced anything but early offense they proved to be very much improved. Now with a specialist like JO in tow, that whole point of commitment thing can really pay off much better. And Jose needs to be able to show that he can actually channel players into a swarm instead of waving his arms from behind his man like I saw him do against Jameer Nelson of all people, after Jameer just went by him and stuck Jose on his backside. At least he had the behind the back pass covered. You can't just make a small attempt to steer a guy one way or another and be done. You still have to be active in stopping the ball. Jose simply couldn't handle any kind of speed. Really - I can't see how Mitchell was going to mask that kind of imbalance off of transition. Could that maybe be why he's so happy about bringing in JO? JO could change everything exactly by allowing for weaknesses to be masked.

Chutney 07-30-2008 12:36 AM

Althought I'm critical of Smitch as a coach, Jose's defensive problems are his fault alone. His positioning is terrible and he gambles far too often and at the wrong times. Hopefully he addresses them this offseason.

rapsfan087 07-30-2008 08:51 AM

I am in Mike's side: Jose isn't the best defender, but it isn't that bad, and I don't remenber he made so many gambles (can be wrong), all the defenders have to pick what they give and what they don't.

The best basketball from Raps I have seen was when Garbo was on the court, he was the guy who gave some sense to the defence, placing himself in the right spot. Same with the offense, just doing the right choice. Moon has done some of that work at the defence, but he isn't so experienced.

Sam didn't tell Garbo what he had to do. That was what Raptors lost, a guy who knew what was the right choice.

Hater ... curious word, it's a word I'm learning to hate, don't know why ... I am beginning to think that it's like saying "witch" at the Saint Inquisition's times ... good times, great barbecues... I think I wrote a lot of facts in the discurssion with Claudius, but whatever.


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