Jose Vs Rafer....
Old 01-03-2009, 11:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Me thinks someone made a promise, about what would happen if Rafer didn't light up Jose...

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And a whopping -24 when he was on the floor.
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Old 01-03-2009, 11:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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My guess is that the "Jose didn't play long enough" card will be thrown in regarding this debate.
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Old 01-03-2009, 11:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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My guess is that the "Jose didn't play long enough" card will be thrown in regarding this debate.

bailed out???

Rafer couldn't break me down off the dribble.
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Old 01-03-2009, 11:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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bailed out???

Rafer couldn't break me down off the dribble.
an and-1 all star couldnt break you down?

yea jose didnt play the whole game yesterday so im here to plead my case until im banned.

and oh shit.... the Raptors won without calderon.

we play just like houston played yesterday when jose runs the point.
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
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and oh shit.... the Raptors won without calderon.
Yeah, but if the real Rockets actually showed up to play last night the outcome most likely would of been a much different outcome. Please don't discount the value Jose has to this team. The fact that you think this team is better without him really makes me wonder if you actually know anything about basketball. And I mean that in the nicest way.
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Jose won in the amount of time he played
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:37 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Yeah, but if the real Rockets actually showed up to play last night the outcome most likely would of been a much different outcome. Please don't discount the value Jose has to this team. The fact that you think this team is better without him really makes me wonder if you actually know anything about basketball. And I mean that in the nicest way.
hey we all got opinions.
mine is of the minority.
the team hasnt showed that theyre worse without him.
theyre not 0-3 like some people think our record should be without him.
we're 2-1. not alot of games, i know.
did our players not play well yesterday?
did we not push the ball more?
did we not beat houston by 21 points?
even if houston "showed up" it still would've been a game.

we played much better without calderon.
whether it was the imporved defense at PG and/or the raps pushing the ball getting easy scores and open shots.
we did play better.
whether anyone wants to admit it or not.
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:44 PM   #8 (permalink)
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hey we all got opinions.
mine is of the minority.
the team hasnt showed that theyre worse without him.
theyre not 0-3 like some people think our record should be without him.
we're 2-1. not alot of games, i know.
did our players not play well yesterday?
did we not push the ball more?
did we not beat houston by 21 points?
even if houston "showed up" it still would've been a game.

we played much better without calderon.
whether it was the imporved defense at PG and/or the raps pushing the ball getting easy scores and open shots.
we did play better.
whether anyone wants to admit it or not.
Yes, your absolutely entitled to your opinions no matter how wrong they are. I just can't believe what I've read. That we're better off with Solomon and Roko instead of Jose. I guess the joke's on me and I'm the delusional one. My apologies.
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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hey we all got opinions.
mine is of the minority.
the team hasnt showed that theyre worse without him.
theyre not 0-3 like some people think our record should be without him.
we're 2-1. not alot of games, i know.
did our players not play well yesterday?
did we not push the ball more?
did we not beat houston by 21 points?
even if houston "showed up" it still would've been a game.

we played much better without calderon.
whether it was the imporved defense at PG and/or the raps pushing the ball getting easy scores and open shots.
we did play better.
whether anyone wants to admit it or not.
Ye for sure!

We should trade Jose!!!!
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LOL. The only way they played well is because theRockets weren't on top of there game.
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Ye for sure!

We should trade Jose!!!!
I hope your being sarcastic because if not I think I have to shut down RF for a while until people get their senses back.

Come on people .... first we should get rid of Bosh, then JO and now Jose?

Who do you guys want this team to emulate? The Washington Generals?
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:57 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Yes, your absolutely entitled to your opinions no matter how wrong they are. I just can't believe what I've read. That we're better off with Solomon and Roko instead of Jose. I guess the joke's on me and I'm the delusional one. My apologies.
yes, i love the sarcasm.
im not saying the Calderon is terrible but im convinced he's not going to play the style the Raptors need in order to win. if he would just push the ball more often then i would forget all about the super weak defense.

he's a becoming a great shooter and i think thats all thats great about him.
his low turnovers are just a result of him not being active with the ball on offense.
his assist totals are completely overrated with on an offensive team that runs just about every play through him.
solomon had 7assists last night, does that make him a good passer?

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I hope your being sarcastic because if not I think I have to shut down RF for a while until people get their senses back.

Come on people .... first we should get rid of Bosh, then JO and now Jose?

Who do you guys want this team to emulate? The Washington Generals?
If anyone should be traded it should be JO. Bargs can play good if he has a big role so i think he is the most likely to be traded
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We are NOT a better team with Will and Roko, the Rockets just played very poorly. Next game you're probably going to see Will take some wild shots, mid-air passes and probably some other terrible plays from him. Obviously i hope he plays good but im basing this on what i've seen from him the whole season, not just one game.
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I hate to break it to all you little morons that can't seem to get it through your heads. For every pass you see that a guy gets on the break, which is what, 3-4 a game with or without Calderon, there are 4-5 turnovers from th guys you like sooo much. It's easy to discount the good decisions, because they don't end up with a highlite, but honestly, if thats all you see when you're watching, you need to go out and read a few books about ball, then maybe get good at it and play a little, get coached by a few guys that have been around ball for 30+ years, then, and maybe then, you will know the difference between "NBA Action, it's fantastic" and actual reality.

Jack said it so well last night, basketball, is NOT won on the stat sheet or on the highllite reel.
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I missed the game last nite however I saw the game in one hour. Jose and the Raptors started well and Jose played the first quarter and we were up by 11 pts. Our differance maker was the play of Bargs. If he can continue his play this rubbish talk about trading him will disappear.Keep posting my friend the stress master, like the doc said your posts put us in a delusional state of mind.lol But keep posting because it does not make you a bad person lol. You are my hot pepper on my pizza. So without you and your opinions we really don't have a pizza to eat. Your right we all have opinions just like we all have our favourite toppings on our pizza.Stress we are on the same team hopefully the Raptors can turn this around with or without Calderon. Oh well back to the international bowl game. Go Buffalo go !
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We are NOT a better team with Will and Roko, the Rockets just played very poorly. Next game you're probably going to see Will take some wild shots, mid-air passes and probably some other terrible plays from him. Obviously i hope he plays good but im basing this on what i've seen from him the whole season, not just one game.
or if Calderon plays we'll see weak defense and more jumpshots.

but i think will did a good job yesterday.
he was a little more calm.

everyone is saying the rockets played poorly.
you dont beat a team by 21 point if you play poorly yourself.
the Raptors played a good game.
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I agree stress, they did play a good game.
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I missed the game last nite however I saw the game in one hour. Jose and the Raptors started well and Jose played the first quarter and we were up by 11 pts. Our differance maker was the play of Bargs. If he can continue his play this rubbish talk about trading him will disappear.Keep posting my friend the stress master, like the doc said your posts put us in a delusional state of mind.lol But keep posting because it does not make you a bad person lol. You are my hot pepper on my pizza. So without you and your opinions we really don't have a pizza to eat. Your right we all have opinions just like we all have our favourite toppings on our pizza.Stress we are on the same team hopefully the Raptors can turn this around with or without Calderon. Oh well back to the international bowl game. Go Buffalo go !
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I hate to break it to all you little morons that can't seem to get it through your heads. For every pass you see that a guy gets on the break, which is what, 3-4 a game with or without Calderon, there are 4-5 turnovers from th guys you like sooo much. It's easy to discount the good decisions, because they don't end up with a highlite, but honestly, if thats all you see when you're watching, you need to go out and read a few books about ball, then maybe get good at it and play a little, get coached by a few guys that have been around ball for 30+ years, then, and maybe then, you will know the difference between "NBA Action, it's fantastic" and actual reality.

Jack said it so well last night, basketball, is NOT won on the stat sheet or on the highllite reel.

Know what guy? Sometimes you're kinda smart.
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