Jose trade talks underway

snark · 07-12-2012, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

if so why not just amnesty his ass?

Roddy B with the attached TPE, if you waive the TPE, still leaves you 8.4 of cap space. Better return on the asset, plus you still have the amnesty to use next year if you have to for Kleiza or Amir.

LOG · 07-12-2012, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

if so why not just amnesty his ass?

Correct me if i'm wrong ,but if understand correctly what DanH just said we can get Beaubois (lets say) plus 8.4 TPE, and than waive it having 8.7mil in capspace. IMO that is better than simply amnestying Jose

carp · 07-12-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

if so why not just amnesty his ass?

Seriously? You'd rather pay him to play for them?

Ammo · 07-12-2012, 11:19 PM

Thanks, DanH.

So it ends up being a good thing to acquire te TPE and then waive it for cap space, which has the benefit of not having the restrictions that a TPE does.

Jose goes to an experienced team that will likely go to the playoffs and Dallas can use a PG, so everyone wins.....as long as the Raps turn this into something useful, because we would still need a back up for Lowry.

Further, if the Knicks match for Lowry, even more money is freed up.

AND we still have at our disposal the ability to amnesty someone.

Hypothetical:

8 mil TPE + 6.3 mil Landry Fields no-go + 6 mil Amir amnesty = 20 mil.

Welcome home, Dwight.

carp · 07-12-2012, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammo

Thanks, DanH.

So it ends up being a good thing to acquire te TPE and then waive it for cap space, which has the benefit of not having the restrictions that a TPE does.

Jose goes to an experienced team that will likely go to the playoffs and Dallas can use a PG, so everyone wins.....as long as the Raps turn this into something useful, because we would still need a back up for Lowry.

Further, if the Knicks match for Lowry, even more money is freed up.

I hope they match for Landry, we can't afford them matching on Lowry!

Gurk · 07-12-2012, 11:21 PM

Fuck. I'll always love Jose no matter where he goes. He will deserve a standing O no matter. I'll fucking give him an applause even if he goes to Miami.

carp · 07-12-2012, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Gurk

Fuck. I'll always love Jose no matter where he goes. He will deserve a standing O no matter. I'll fucking give him an applause even if he goes to Miami.

I like your thinking.... Jose for Lebron and cash.

But yeah, it would be hard to see him go to Miami but it would give them a likeable player.

jeffb · 07-12-2012, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by carp

Seriously? You'd rather pay him to play for them?

and get a full 10mil in capspace.....why not if all we're going to get is a tpe?

LOG · 07-12-2012, 11:26 PM

Can we still amnesty players after waiving tpe?

jeffb · 07-12-2012, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LOG

Can we still amnesty players after waiving tpe?

yes

in other words, waive the tpe and then amnesty amir or kleiza.

Ammo · 07-12-2012, 11:33 PM

Nash really does love Canada. He potentially got us Lowry and 20 mil cap space.

Batman · 07-12-2012, 11:42 PM

Ryan Wolstat @WolstatSun

If Calderon moved, Raptors likely will sign a veteran to back up (if one doesn't return in trade) and Uzoh, Holloway, Brown fight for 3rd

jeffb · 07-12-2012, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Batman

Ryan Wolstat @WolstatSun

If Calderon moved, Raptors likely will sign a veteran to back up (if one doesn't return in trade) and Uzoh, Holloway, Brown fight for 3rd

makes sense

LOG · 07-12-2012, 11:53 PM

I still think we should trade him for the pick, to a team that will potentially be in 20-10 range, we free up cap space have a pick in 2013 1st round (or two depending where we end up) save amnesty, have potential to end up with ~16mil capspace

jeffb · 07-13-2012, 12:14 AM

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by Ballin on Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:10 am

Ive been dreaming for Jose to be gone since he ruined our team. Please... just GTFO Jose... You are the worst!!!

realgm poster.....uhhhh, a little over the top, no?

Kirby · 07-13-2012, 12:39 AM

Jose is arguably a top 10 pg given some talent, and not having him play with stiffs. Why are people willing to spend amnesty on him?

Beaubois is not even good, he's just a tweener like Bayless.
Toronto doesn't deserve Jose lol... He's so under-appreciated.

**Ball Don't Lie** · 07-13-2012, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirby

Jose is arguably a top 10 pg given some talent, and not having him play with stiffs. Why are people willing to spend amnesty on him?

Beaubois is not even good, he's just a tweener like Bayless.
Toronto doesn't deserve Jose lol... He's so under-appreciated.

You didnt quite reach raptor123 level on that. but you were close.

And for that, you get a:

Kid tells the Heat "Good job, good effort" after...

Kirby · 07-13-2012, 12:56 AM

Forget it man...

Gurk · 07-13-2012, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirby

Jose is arguably a top 10 pg given some talent, and not having him play with stiffs. Why are people willing to spend amnesty on him?

Beaubois is not even good, he's just a tweener like Bayless.
Toronto doesn't deserve Jose lol... He's so under-appreciated.

I +1'ed bro. I fucking love Jose so much that I dont' understand. He did well even with such a shit team last year. Sure I want Lowry to start now, lead the youth movement, but Caldy is awesome, and he will be missed.

Kirby · 07-13-2012, 01:11 AM

He's so consistent and his playstyle is really becoming extinct in these newer players. Ffs what do people expect from him throwing the ball to the wings with the likes of DeRozan and Johnson? Or maybe in the post to Gray or Davis?

His numbers are lower, but how can you blame him if he's the most talented player on the court for the Raps on most nights while Bargs is hurt?

07-12-2012, 11:19 PM	#44 (permalink)
Ammo is T. Ross IS The Phantom Menace. Lackey Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Mighty North Tundra Posts: 2,840 Representing:	Thanks, DanH. So it ends up being a good thing to acquire te TPE and then waive it for cap space, which has the benefit of not having the restrictions that a TPE does. Jose goes to an experienced team that will likely go to the playoffs and Dallas can use a PG, so everyone wins.....as long as the Raps turn this into something useful, because we would still need a back up for Lowry. Further, if the Knicks match for Lowry, even more money is freed up. AND we still have at our disposal the ability to amnesty someone. Hypothetical: 8 mil TPE + 6.3 mil Landry Fields no-go + 6 mil Amir amnesty = 20 mil. Welcome home, Dwight. Last edited by Ammo; 07-12-2012 at 11:22 PM.

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07-12-2012, 11:21 PM	#46 (permalink)
Gurk is one sexy motherfucker you ain't bout that life Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,741 Representing:	Fuck. I'll always love Jose no matter where he goes. He will deserve a standing O no matter. I'll fucking give him an applause even if he goes to Miami.

07-12-2012, 11:26 PM	#49 (permalink)
LOG is trying to learn tolerance, and let others believe what they want to believe. Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,385 Representing:	Can we still amnesty players after waiving tpe?

07-12-2012, 11:33 PM	#51 (permalink)
Ammo is T. Ross IS The Phantom Menace. Lackey Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Mighty North Tundra Posts: 2,840 Representing:	Nash really does love Canada. He potentially got us Lowry and 20 mil cap space.

07-12-2012, 11:42 PM	#52 (permalink)
Batman is a Husky fella (Rudy)Gayman Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Halifax Posts: 1,845 Representing:	Ryan Wolstat @WolstatSun If Calderon moved, Raptors likely will sign a veteran to back up (if one doesn't return in trade) and Uzoh, Holloway, Brown fight for 3rd

07-12-2012, 11:53 PM	#54 (permalink)
LOG is trying to learn tolerance, and let others believe what they want to believe. Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,385 Representing:	I still think we should trade him for the pick, to a team that will potentially be in 20-10 range, we free up cap space have a pick in 2013 1st round (or two depending where we end up) save amnesty, have potential to end up with ~16mil capspace

07-13-2012, 12:39 AM	#56 (permalink)
Kirby is quarrelsome. Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,540 Representing:	Jose is arguably a top 10 pg given some talent, and not having him play with stiffs. Why are people willing to spend amnesty on him? Beaubois is not even good, he's just a tweener like Bayless. Toronto doesn't deserve Jose lol... He's so under-appreciated.

07-13-2012, 12:56 AM	#58 (permalink)
Kirby is quarrelsome. Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,540 Representing:	Forget it man...

07-13-2012, 01:11 AM	#60 (permalink)
Kirby is quarrelsome. Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,540 Representing:	He's so consistent and his playstyle is really becoming extinct in these newer players. Ffs what do people expect from him throwing the ball to the wings with the likes of DeRozan and Johnson? Or maybe in the post to Gray or Davis? His numbers are lower, but how can you blame him if he's the most talented player on the court for the Raps on most nights while Bargs is hurt?