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Old 07-12-2012, 11:10 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Yeah, Beaubois wouldn't be bad.
and his salary is 2.2 mill
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:12 PM   #22 (permalink)
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We have enough Sg's, trading Jose for PG wouldn't make much seance. we need to package him for SF if possible
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We have enough Sg's, trading Jose for PG wouldn't make much seance. we need to package him for SF if possible
jose for chandler?
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jose for chandler?
if his contract is anything over 7.5 million, i'd say hell no!
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:23 PM   #25 (permalink)
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if his contract is anything over 7.5 million, i'd say hell no!
It isn't


Wilson Chandler signs 5 year 37 million dollar contract
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:24 PM   #26 (permalink)
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What about Jose +(someone else) for Granger?
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:28 PM   #27 (permalink)
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and his salary is 2.2 mill
That would free up like what, another 7.8 million in cap?? Awesome! Gives us the room to grab a SF on the free aagent market.
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WTF are we going to get from Dallas?




Good lord, hopefully we don't take on much salary, giving us more capspace. There is nothing on Dallas i would want. Marion is nearly done!

I really hope there is some other teams that get into the mix in this.


a TPE
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:34 PM   #29 (permalink)
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a TPE
Actually, that would be great. We could send it to Philadelphia for Iguodala along with a couple players. Beaubois + 8Mil TPE
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Can someone explain a TPE too me? Does it allow you to take on the worth of the TPE in a signing/trade?
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I thought you had to use a TPE by itself. This is confusing.
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:46 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:47 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Dallas get jose + acy
Phily get Marion + Amir + JJ + 1st Dallas 2015
toronto get Iguy + beaubois

Lowry/Beaubois
DD/Ross
Iguy/Fields/AA
Bargs/davis/Acy
Gray/JV/Magz
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You're trading Acy but he's your third string PF?
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:50 PM   #35 (permalink)
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A 1st to replace the pick we gave Houston. Also, remember that Casey should have some good inside knowledge on a lot of the Mavs personnel. Sorry they traded Mahimi away- he has more upside than Gray.
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Dallas get jose + acy
Phily get Marion + Amir + JJ + 1st Dallas 2015
toronto get Iguy + beaubois

Lowry/Beaubois
DD/Ross
Iguy/Fields/AA
Bargs/davis/Acy
Gray/JV/Magz
And what about Kleiza? do we amnesty him or AA somehow takes his spot?
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Can someone explain a TPE too me? Does it allow you to take on the worth of the TPE in a signing/trade?
To understand TPE's, you've got to know a couple things about trade rules. First, a team under the cap can make pretty much any trade they want as long as they end up under the cap after the trade. It is when a team wants to end up over the cap (whether they start above it or below it) that the Traded Player Exception comes into play.

The Traded Player Exception allows a team over the cap to absorb up to 150% of the salary sent out, so long as the trade is done simultaneously (a single transaction). This is the most common form of trade. However, in the rare case that a trade is done non-simultaneously (multiple transactions) the traded player exception takes on a different shape, and this specific type of traded player exception is what is so commonly referred to as the TPE.

A TPE is created when you trade away a player and receive less salary in return. It has to be a single player. This rule is why you cannot combine a TPE with another player - the trade creating the TPE and the trade using the TPE are treated as a single trade - and the rule that there can only be one outgoing player applies to that single trade. The two (or more) moves made to create and then use the TPE are treated as a single non-simultaneous trade.

The TPE has the value of the difference between the outgoing salary of your single player and the incoming salary in that original trade. So if I trade Jose Calderon to the Mavericks for Roddy Beaubois, that's 10.6M going out, and 2.2M coming back. So I get a TPE of 8.4M.

Then the TPE can be used to absorb up to 8.4M in a trade - but remember, it cannot be combined with any players in a trade. And in the meantime, it applies a cap hit to your team salary - thus preventing you from using both the TPE and cap space.

So, to summarize:
1) The TPE applies only to teams that want to go above the cap.
2) The TPE is created when trading away a single player and receiving significantly less salary in return.
3) The TPE can be used to absorb a player (or players) whose salaries fit into the TPE amount.

As a note, that first point is very important. Cap space is much more valuable than a TPE. And in fact a team like the Raptors, who have a little cap space already, would do well to waive the TPE and thereby free up an equivalent amount of cap space. The benefit there is that cap space can be used in combination with players in a deal, where a TPE cannot.
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Old 07-13-2012, 12:00 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Dallas get jose + acy
Phily get Marion + Amir + JJ + 1st Dallas 2015
toronto get Iguy + beaubois

Lowry/Beaubois
DD/Ross
Iguy/Fields/AA
Bargs/davis/Acy
Gray/JV/Magz
Forget AA and Magz. If they're even in camp, then we haven't moved forward as much as we should have. Cant trade both of Amir and JJ, we become too weak at the rim.

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Getting a player like Beaubois for Jose would be a great trade. But more than likely as others have brought up, it'll most likely be a TPE that we'll never use.
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Getting a player like Beaubois for Jose would be a great trade. But more than likely as others have brought up, it'll most likely be a TPE that we'll never use.
if so why not just amnesty his ass?
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