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Old 08-17-2008, 12:19 AM   #221 (permalink)
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If I were to say that "all (south east) asians have slanted eyes", or "all blacks have black skin", or "all whites have round eyes", would that be offensive? Since when has truth become offensive?
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Old 08-17-2008, 12:21 AM   #222 (permalink)
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Mike, we know people who were insulted.

I know some 'political correct' topics i've seen you lose your cool over. I guess it all depends on who it effects, right?

Funk, trust me, I can be insulted, for sure, but I doubt it would be along the lines of "political correctness".

If you and LX personally know people who were insulted by that picture, that doesn't mean the entire Asian population of Earth was also insulted. That's all.
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Old 08-17-2008, 01:45 PM   #223 (permalink)
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But for the life of me I can't see what's wrong with that picture - how can it be perceived as offensive? What exactly is the "offense" in that photo? If I were to say that "all (south east) asians have slanted eyes", or "all blacks have black skin", or "all whites have round eyes", would that be offensive? Since when has truth become offensive?
i think it's brilliant that you can make an observation of the different traits of races, now maybe once you find out that mocking those different traits isn't exactly a nice thing to do, we can end this conversation.
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Old 08-17-2008, 02:50 PM   #224 (permalink)
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THis thread has gone on for too long. Dr. J or anyone that can please end this thread
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Old 08-17-2008, 02:57 PM   #225 (permalink)
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even if I dont like this thread, if people keep posting theres no reason to close it
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Old 08-17-2008, 03:22 PM   #226 (permalink)
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THis thread has gone on for too long. Dr. J or anyone that can please end this thread
I have been trying to read the whole thing but damn it's long.

I haven't responded to any threads in awhile because of one thread where I read some racist things. After reading this I realized that I took it too serious. Most of the world is ignorant and it is no different here. White, Black, Brown, Yellow, Red!

The generalization that goes on here is so funny. I can' believe people still refer to Asians as Orientals! Who does that? LOL Did you know that Sam Mitchell is the 4th COLOURED coach in Raptors history! HAHAHA
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Old 08-17-2008, 03:49 PM   #227 (permalink)
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Whoever fells insulted by this picture is brainwashed by the politicians. All this saga about who wins more medals between China & US is defeating the all purpose of Olympic games. Chinese and US took the Olympic spirit further than is suppose to, they want to proof what kind of political system is better: communism or capitalism.
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Old 08-17-2008, 04:45 PM   #228 (permalink)
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so if i walk into a mini-mart and start talking like apu to the east asian person behind the counter, i'm being cute while anyone else who thinks otherwise is brainwashed because of the on-going debate of immigration and globalization?

listen to yourself
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Old 08-17-2008, 04:47 PM   #229 (permalink)
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so if i walk into a mini-mart and start talking like apu to the east asian person behind the counter, i'm being cute while anyone else who thinks otherwise is brainwashed because of the on-going debate of immigration and globalization?

listen to yourself
If you were to do that, east asians would take real offense to that
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Old 08-17-2008, 04:53 PM   #230 (permalink)
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you're brainwashed.
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Old 08-17-2008, 04:55 PM   #231 (permalink)
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Yea I am. Yesterday night a bunch of Aliens came and brain washed me
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Old 08-17-2008, 05:47 PM   #232 (permalink)
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so if i walk into a mini-mart and start talking like apu to the east asian person behind the counter, i'm being cute while anyone else who thinks otherwise is brainwashed because of the on-going debate of immigration and globalization?

listen to yourself
You would do that ("start talking like apu") with the purpose of insulting that person. Spanish team didn't do it to insult anyone. All you got to do is to chill out.
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Old 08-17-2008, 06:09 PM   #233 (permalink)
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Old 08-17-2008, 08:04 PM   #234 (permalink)
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You would do that ("start talking like apu") with the purpose of insulting that person. Spanish team didn't do it to insult anyone. All you got to do is to chill out.
read what i said. i said to be cute, like the spanish teams gesture. no matter what way you put it, it's not going to be cute, funny, and harmless to the man behind the counter or the victim of the joke as per the link 'trane just put up.
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read what i said. i said to be cute, like the spanish teams gesture. no matter what way you put it, it's not going to be cute, funny, and harmless to the man behind the counter or the victim of the joke as per the link 'trane just put up.
I think the situation you describe is not even close with the Spanish photo situation! There is an old saying: "When you are in Rome, you behave like romans"! Spaniard just applied this old saying to the current Olympiad event, if you don't know yet is being held in China. I am not a Spaniard, I am not a Chinese, looking from outside I consider just an overreaction inflated artificial by media.

If you watch any comedy show, you will see a lot of this jokes, too bad for those who doesn't consider them jokes. Poor Mac Bernie, who died recently, he said that he was terrified by this kind of reaction. Any time when he was preparing a new show, was so difficult to choose his words: is this going to offend black community? Or is going to offend white community?

And not to mention if Bush will send his secret service to annihilate every comedian who makes fun of him! That would be the end of comedy!

I am immigrant myself living in Canada ... sometimes I run over this kind of situations when people take a shot to my native country but I never get upset, eventually I throw back a joke or I just get along with the joke, knowing that actually is a joke. I believe that a joke can break barriers between people when the jokes are intended to be jokes.
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:56 AM   #236 (permalink)
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Insight, I feel your pain as we had a similar kind of upbringing. I fear we will never understand "the natives" when it comes to the "sensitive issues of racial nature" - and maybe it's for the best.

It's important to note, however, that Chinese in China have been brought up in an environment that is much closer to Romania or USSR than to USA/Canada. Maybe that's why the world media and some people here feel the need to explain to Chinese that they should be offended while most everyone in China simply shrugs their shoulders.
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Old 08-18-2008, 12:04 PM   #237 (permalink)
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More than shrugging their shoulders, some of them actually like the pic because there is a dragon: the dragon at the Chinese culture it's the symbol of the Chinese people.

So we have some people trying to look like Chinese people with the symbol of the Chinese people ... fuck, how I didn't realize it was an insult? And me thinking that it was because it was a fight to be the Olympics hosts ... shame on me.
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Old 08-18-2008, 12:21 PM   #238 (permalink)
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The opinions on this are interestingly divided across the continents - Europeans and first-generation Americans/Canadians appear to be far less sensitive to the perceived racial issues than people born in NA. What's really curious, though, is that people brought up in former socialist countries (including Chinese who currently live in one) are reacting the same way as Euros who were born and raised within a completely different ideological environment. This really seems to be NA vs. the rest of the world deal.
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:25 PM   #239 (permalink)
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i think it's brilliant that you can make an observation of the different traits of races, now maybe once you find out that mocking those different traits isn't exactly a nice thing to do, we can end this conversation.
of course mocking is bad . But my point is that I fail to see the mocking aspect in that picture (in intent or in fact).

Anyway - since everybody agrees that there was no intent, for me that's enough. Worst case scenario you can classify is as poor judgement, and I'm pretty understanding when it comes to that.
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Are you nimrods still carping about this shit.

fuck man, let it go, the rest of the planet has.
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