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Old 03-17-2011, 06:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A team-leading 20 points and four rebounds for Andrea Bargnani(notes). Charlie Villanueva(notes) hit a lay-up (somewhat) over him in the paint after a Raptor turnover during the fourth quarter, and it was the softest meeting I've seen since one of my cats fell asleep on an unopened 12-pack of toilet paper I left in my living room Wednesday night.
On NBATV Rick Mahorn was making comments about Andrea always hanging outside the arc. And on the clip where Andrea scores inside off the pass from Sonny on a break, he had a laugh about him getting in there too close - "he might catch a cold".
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Old 03-17-2011, 06:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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One play last night where a piston went right into Bargnani for a layup, Bargnani didn't even contest it.. he just watched. I think it was Matt Devlin or Jack Armstrong who called him out... Bargnani is a liability, trading him this off-season is a must.
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Old 03-17-2011, 06:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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One play last night where a piston went right into Bargnani for a layup, Bargnani didn't even contest it.. he just watched. I think it was Matt Devlin or Jack Armstrong who called him out... Bargnani is a liability, trading him this off-season is a must.
If we can find a C to compliment him and move Bargs to PF then...wait but what about Amir and Ed. Darn. If Reggie can be dealt and then a C acquired from FA, then you can have Bargs/C in the front court with Ed and Amir coming off the bench. But if all else fails, we can't have Bargs as our C with that defense.
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Old 03-17-2011, 06:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Bargnani shouldn't be playing any time at the PF position for us. We're stacked there. Bargnani needs to go.
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Old 03-17-2011, 06:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Fuck Bargnani at the PF, Amir/Davis are much better for that role.
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:30 PM   #6 (permalink)
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4 rebounds vs Detroit, 3 of which were off his own shots. So in other words he had 1reb the entire game that he actually went after without having taken the shot himself. He's an embarrassment to this team imo. The lack of effort alone (which seems to have only got worse over the last 6 seasons) should get him traded. The only problem now is that this is his reputation throughout the league so his worth isn't great at this point.
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
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On NBATV Rick Mahorn was making comments about Andrea always hanging outside the arc. And on the clip where Andrea scores inside off the pass from Sonny on a break, he had a laugh about him getting in there too close - "he might catch a cold".
I didn't watch it but I think u mean rick kamla ?
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:55 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Man.... you guys are such haters! It's not Andrea's fault that Triano can't coach defense! He's not teaching Bargs the right way! And everyone always takes the rebounds away from him! How is he supposed to get any?? His job is to score the ball and look pretty doing it.... that's it. Who cares if he gives up basket after basket and guys go for career highs against him? He scores 20 pts dammit!!

Sounds kind of ridiculous doesn't it?
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:58 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I didn't watch it but I think u mean rick kamla ?
No, I think he means former player and NBA TV analyst Rick Mahorn.
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:59 PM   #10 (permalink)
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4 rebounds vs Detroit, 3 of which were off his own shots. So in other words he had 1reb the entire game that he actually went after without having taken the shot himself. He's an embarrassment to this team imo. The lack of effort alone (which seems to have only got worse over the last 6 seasons) should get him traded. The only problem now is that this is his reputation throughout the league so his worth isn't great at this point.
Really, because he had one offensive rebound and three defensive rebounds, so unless he was shooting at his own basket...
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Really, because he had one offensive rebound and three defensive rebounds, so unless he was shooting at his own basket...
To be honest i heard that today on the radio. lol


So maybe the lesson here is, don't rely on toronto sports media when they discuss anything not played on ice. I didn't watch much of the game anyway.
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Old 03-17-2011, 08:18 PM   #12 (permalink)
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usually his offense makes up for his defence but when he is struggling offensively..
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usually his offense makes up for his defence but when he is struggling offensively..
See i think it's the opposite, his defence/reb/blks (lack there of) deminishes whatever he does on offense. And when his offense isn't there he's rendured useless and becomes a large liability.
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Old 03-17-2011, 08:59 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I also have a problem of how he gets his offence.

At least early on in the season, he did not rely on the jump shooting too much. He actually tried posting up consistently.

Recently, he's living or dying by the jump shot.
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Old 03-17-2011, 09:06 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I also have a problem of how he gets his offence.

At least early on in the season, he did not rely on the jump shooting too much. He actually tried posting up consistently.

Recently, he's living or dying by the jump shot.
yeah, i believe that he's lost any drive to put the effort out to get to the rim as the season goes on and we keep losing. it's as if he just doesn't care on most nights because we're not going anwhere this season, essentially giving up.
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Old 03-17-2011, 09:55 PM   #16 (permalink)
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i wish we had omar asik as our centre, he plays really good as a backup C for the bulls
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Old 03-17-2011, 10:08 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I seriously think Chicago is a good trading partner.

We should unload Barbosa there, since they desire point production at the SG position.

Asik and Brewer for Barbosa.
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Old 03-18-2011, 07:16 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Colangelo, Triano, Bargnani, and Calderon all must go. This team can never succeed with those four.
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Colangelo, Triano, Bargnani, and Calderon all must go. This team can never succeed with those four.
You're right, but you think a team od Bayless DD Jhonson amir/ed and whatever center availlable is going somewhere?
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Old 03-18-2011, 07:57 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Bargnani is a good player. end of. He has skills and he has weaknesses. It's up to the coaching staff to figure out how to best use him. It's easy to hate on him, but to me in spite of his weaknesses, he is clearly one of the better players on this team. We need natural talent badly and this guy has it. Figure out how to best use it.
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