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Old 01-06-2009, 01:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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If you were Brian Colangelo who would you trade? If you had good offers on the table for both players, which players brings you what you need. So do you trade JO and get a starting wing player and keep Bargnani as your starting Centre the rest of the season, therefore finally giving him the much needed defined roll he needs. Or do you trade Bargnani with another player (ie: AP) for a starting Wing player, probably effecting our bench depth.
Who would you trade today?
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Based on what Bargs has been showing lately it'd have to be one HELL of a good deal to trade him right now.

JO has played pretty well but he's not the future.. everyone knows that. If it's between the 2 of them JO has to go.
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Old 01-06-2009, 01:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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JO, AB doesnt have much trade value, his contract isnt that big to get anything that good in return, and maybe I and alot of others were wrong and he will develop into a 20/8 kind of guy.
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The real problem is, BC had no confidence in AB, but still didnt want to trade him, we wouldnt be in this spot if BC believed AB could be the starting C this year, because he wouldnt have traded for JO if that were the case
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The real problem is, BC had no confidence in AB, but still didnt want to trade him, we wouldnt be in this spot if BC believed AB could be the starting C this year, because he wouldnt have traded for JO if that were the case

Of course he didn't. He couldn't have been a Centre until this season.He was too skinny and raw his first two seasons.And his true position is PF. But now that he has put on 20+ pounds and went through his offseason regiment BC finally has the confidence that Andrea can be a Centre in the NBA. And i for one agree. I believe that Andrea could give us 30-35 MPG 17PPG/7RPG/1.5Blk
for the rest of the season if he was given the starting 5 roll.And i would take that and run with it.
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^Yeah, Bargs is playing well since he knows his role and he has many years ahead of him to get better. So yeah i would trade JO for a swingman
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JO is 30 and is a huge injury risk, plays solid defense, and will play consistant offense if he can stay healthy.
Bargs is 23 and playing decent basketball offensively and defensively. He's shown his best basketball is yet to come. he's still has more room to grow his game.


keep Bargnani and trade JO.
its not like we'll get equal value for bargs. if we trade him, two years later we'll want him back.

JO might not return much for us but maybe we can get some healthy guys who can add some depth to our bench or a decent starting athletic wing.
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Who would I trade today? JO because of his contract, but in terms of impact and whos a betetr player its still JO until Andrea can prove to everyone that he can be consistant game to game and not go on these random 7 game streaks where he shoots 20% and cant play defence again. If we traded JO and Andrea goes through another one of those streaks, unless we got a real nice backup C behind Andrea, we'd have Jake Voskuhl playing 22 mpg and we'll suck out loud even more.

BC better be getting a very good return for JO to trade him at this point, because in looking at the contract situation its going to be very hard to trade Andrea for the swingman we need because he makes 4 mil and the swingman will likely make between 9-12 mil. I dont think most teams are willing to take back Jkaps long deal to get Bargs if theyre also giving up something nice in return
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JO but strictly because with his deal we can get some serious return.
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I'd trade JO. With Bargs we wouldn't be able to get someone with equal value in return.
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Old 01-06-2009, 04:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
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2 weeks ago everyone would be bitching and saying trade barney
now just because he finally starts hitting his shots keep him
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2 weeks ago everyone would be bitching and saying trade barney
now just because he finally starts hitting his shots keep him
I for one will gladly admit I HATED him, but people change over time!
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Bargnani for sure. He is younger, more talented, and healthy. He has yet to have a major injury (knock on wood), and I really feel if played in the starting lineup at the 4/5 spot can be an difference maker for the Toronto Raptors.

I hope the Raptors trade JO soon though hopefully to either Charlotte or Miami and we can get either Shawn Marion or Gerald Wallace, two of the most versatile players in the NBA, which is definitley what the Raptors could use.
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Shawn Marion is a bitch, I have no desire to see him in Toronto.
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Bargnani for sure. He is younger, more talented, and healthy. He has yet to have a major injury (knock on wood), and I really feel if played in the starting lineup at the 4/5 spot can be an difference maker for the Toronto Raptors.

I hope the Raptors trade JO soon though hopefully to either Charlotte or Miami and we can get either Shawn Marion or Gerald Wallace, two of the most versatile players in the NBA, which is definitley what the Raptors could use.
I would love Gerald Wallace to become a raptor to bad he has no desire to play here
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Fuck Wallace. Hopefully we can get Howard from Dallas Only if BC is willing to take on Dampier's contract
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^Howard is being shopped around or something?
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:13 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I really think ppl are jumping the gun too fast here on Bargnani. True he had a stretch of 4 good games 3 at home one vs Milwaukee vs. 2nd tier center (Bogut was out), that in of it self does not prove that he is ready to man the 5 position. Just like last year when the brain trust decided to start him at the five after his rookie season.

Before he shows consistency at the 5 spot it would be too risky to trade O'neil. Don't get me wrong the flow of the offense is so much better with AB on the floor, the easy basket are really hard to come by when every ball is pounded to the post and the defense has time to get in position. But before handing the rains of the 5 spot to AB I would like him to demonstrate a decent performance vs. other starting centers especially at games away from home.
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wasn't this the same guy who's thread asked "have u given up on bargs?" ...I was the first to reply, and i said no. I'm happy ppl r changing their minds but ya like ppl stated earlier...trade JO, keep bargs...but get real good in return.
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I really think ppl are jumping the gun too fast here on Bargnani. True he had a stretch of 4 good games 3 at home one vs Milwaukee vs. 2nd tier center (Bogut was out), that in of it self does not prove that he is ready to man the 5 position. Just like last year when the brain trust decided to start him at the five after his rookie season.

Before he shows consistency at the 5 spot it would be too risky to trade O'neil. Don't get me wrong the flow of the offense is so much better with AB on the floor, the easy basket are really hard to come by when every ball is pounded to the post and the defense has time to get in position. But before handing the rains of the 5 spot to AB I would like him to demonstrate a decent performance vs. other starting centers especially at games away from home.
The problem with all of that is, you'd still have JO and AB would eventually have to come off the bench. And there we go yanking him in & out of the starting lineup. It's getting rediculous what they've done with him.In & out of the starting lineup, playing him at 3 different spots on the floor. IMO give him the starting 5 spot the rest of the season and see what he can do long term. Otherwise why did they get him to gain 20+ lbs and start grooming him as a Centre (#1 pick). After almost 3 years it's time to just let him play. Trade JO for some wing help!
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