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Old 03-03-2011, 11:48 PM   #21 (permalink)
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He just needs focus. You gotta get him pointed in the right direction, and he'll run downhill all day. I've seen him take Derrick Rose to school on both ends of a game, where there's talent, there's some wins.
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Old 03-04-2011, 12:20 AM   #22 (permalink)
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he has talent just needs consistent playing time. no idea why triano keeps allowing our older players to play so much. i mean unless were looking to trade jose in the off season i don't see why bayless isn't splitting the minutes with jose. at least triano is using james johnson.
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Old 03-04-2011, 12:22 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I think he plays like someone who has something to prove....and he does. But he's got to be able to see his value as a distributor and hopefully that is where most of his focus wil be directed.
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:00 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Derrick Rose is a shoot first PG, you wouldn't want him?

D Rose averages 8 assists per game.....to go along with 25 ppg. And is an MVP candidate. If Bayless is capable of that one day, then he can shoot first anytime he wants.
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:11 AM   #25 (permalink)
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he has talent just needs consistent playing time. no idea why triano keeps allowing our older players to play so much. i mean unless were looking to trade jose in the off season i don't see why bayless isn't splitting the minutes with jose. at least triano is using james johnson.
Triano played DD all of last year.... you can't expect him to play all young guys, you need structure. Jose is great at fostering the growth of the youth on this team in a positive way. Don't forget that the frontcourt is three guys under 25 too.
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:20 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Ahhhh you beat me to it creating this thread...

I was going to give him another game or 2....

Yes, people need to come off the "point guard" of the future... This dude needs to develop his bb court IQ and vision and stop looking for his own game all the time.
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:56 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Taken from Chrisholms piece on tsn.ca... I tottaly agree

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Jerryd Bayless, the backup guard brought in when Jack was sent out, has struggled mightily as a traditional point guard and looks much better suited to playing a Leandro Barbosa-type of scoring guard role off of the bench. Bayless simply doesn't have a knack for controlling the game like Calderon, especially in terms of balancing his offence with his passing. He's extremely turnover-prone (he leads the team in turnovers per 36 minutes), he holds the ball for too long and he generally looks uncomfortable as the quarterback for the team's offence. The Raptors should be working to groom him as a Barbosa-Terry-Crawford-type of sixth-man as opposed to wedging him into a playmaker's mold, but that's a conversation for another day. Suffice it to say that Bayless, while he still may flourish as a scorer, is not going to be the team's long-term solution at the point guard position.


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Old 03-04-2011, 01:52 PM   #28 (permalink)
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bayless sucks and that's the end of it
he has no playmaking skills, he's a poor shooter and only has average quickness
and he's a so-so defender, despite the hype
I just don't see why we'd waste time with him, other than the fact he's supposedly very smart, I can't think of any reason we'd be giving him another year.
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Old 03-04-2011, 02:08 PM   #29 (permalink)
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bayless sucks and that's the end of it
he has no playmaking skills, he's a poor shooter and only has average quickness
and he's a so-so defender, despite the hype
I just don't see why we'd waste time with him, other than the fact he's supposedly very smart, I can't think of any reason we'd be giving him another year.
sounds like you're talking about Weems... who is a FA.... Bayless in under contract next year. It's worth seeing what he does over an offseason. He's played with heart and swagger which is good for this team.
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Old 04-07-2011, 04:41 PM   #30 (permalink)
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D Rose averages 8 assists per game.....to go along with 25 ppg. And is an MVP candidate. If Bayless is capable of that one day, then he can shoot first anytime he wants.
Lol since Bayless has been starting he had a couple 25+ point games with 8 assists. With Jose down he is finally given a chance to start and hes playing great. He might be our future point guard depending on who we draft. If we draft a guy like Derrick Williams then you can surely count on Bayless being the future point guard for this team.
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Old 04-07-2011, 07:03 PM   #31 (permalink)
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he's still not high caliber enough a starting PG for me to feel comfortable with going on into the future if we want to build a championship team, but as a backup i'm liking his ability
he's got the skills basketball wise, but IQ wise i think his decision making and play reading need a lot of work, he needs to improve the jump shot too
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Old 04-07-2011, 07:08 PM   #32 (permalink)
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he's still not high caliber enough a starting PG for me to feel comfortable with going on into the future if we want to build a championship team, but as a backup i'm liking his ability
he's got the skills basketball wise, but IQ wise i think his decision making and play reading need a lot of work, he needs to improve the jump shot too
Decision making will come with more experience and playing time. His jumpshot does need to improve but I'm liking what I'm seeing in him. If he can develop into a D.Rose, I would want him as my starting PG. How I see it, when he starts he looks to get his teammates involved and scores later. As a bench player, he scores first then passes later.
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Decision making will come with more experience and playing time. His jumpshot does need to improve but I'm liking what I'm seeing in him. If he can develop into a D.Rose, I would want him as my starting PG. How I see it, when he starts he looks to get his teammates involved and scores later. As a bench player, he scores first then passes later.
yea definitely. this comes from wanting to prove himself in limited mins, which leads to his demise. i dont blame him, its instictual to try and force production when you have so few mins to do it in. however, hes not good enough to be given 25-30/game yet. sure he will do well some games, but other games you'll want to stick your head into the ground like an ostrich
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Old 04-07-2011, 07:16 PM   #34 (permalink)
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yea definitely. this comes from wanting to prove himself in limited mins, which leads to his demise. i dont blame him, its instictual to try and force production when you have so few mins to do it in. however, hes not good enough to be given 25-30/game yet. sure he will do well some games, but other games you'll want to stick your head into the ground like an ostrich
Yeah man, he is still quite young so inconsistency will be there. I want to see what he does in the offseason. Along with JJ, Bayless will have a big off season for him. I like what he brings to this team. He's tough, aggressive, and looks to always get contact and attacks the basket. Our team could use a player like him.
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Old 04-07-2011, 07:29 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Yeah man, he is still quite young so inconsistency will be there. I want to see what he does in the offseason. Along with JJ, Bayless will have a big off season for him. I like what he brings to this team. He's tough, aggressive, and looks to always get contact and attacks the basket. Our team could use a player like him.
he needs to learn to be not overly eager, but i guess that comes with any young pg. itll show with due time. i mean, even john wall is overly agressive in most cases. however i don't think bayless will end up being the future pg of this team. i feel as if we will develop him next season, he will get good. we will end up drafting a pg next year and trading bayless plus filler for a centre. i personally am happy with that future. things are looking bright my friend
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Old 04-07-2011, 09:56 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Bayless is proving himself....All people have to complain about is that He looks to score too much.

They seem to forget that Bay has a few games with 8 assists. I really wonder of some people who seem to hate a young player who is learning the position. For a player who has not been given the chance like Rose, Westbrook etc he is proving himself to be a valuable part for the T. Dot.

Bay seems to be a natural leader and his drive to be great will carry him to heights only the great ones reach.
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Bayless is proving himself....All people have to complain about is that He looks to score too much.

They seem to forget that Bay has a few games with 8 assists. I really wonder of some people who seem to hate a young player who is learning the position. For a player who has not been given the chance like Rose, Westbrook etc he is proving himself to be a valuable part for the T. Dot.

Bay seems to be a natural leader and his drive to be great will carry him to heights only the great ones reach.
and by great ones u mean people like nelson, nate robinson, ford? im not knocking bayless but he just doesnt have the skill set to be considered to ever play even close to "the real great ones" such as Rose, Paul, Deron, Cousy(was a pg right? i dont remember) etc.
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Old 04-07-2011, 10:15 PM   #38 (permalink)
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and by great ones u mean people like nelson, nate robinson, ford? im not knocking bayless but he just doesnt have the skill set to be considered to ever play even close to "the real great ones" such as Rose, Paul, Deron, Cousy(was a pg right? i dont remember) etc.
What skill set are you looking for? The league is driven by combo guards.
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Old 04-07-2011, 10:15 PM   #39 (permalink)
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he is a very bad PG. however we don't have a better option atm so i say let him start all next season and see how bad he fails. his ability to run plays and setup teammates is atrocious.
i'm not sure if he gives up on plays and just wants to shoot half way into the shot clock or just doesn't understand how plays work due to lack of studying. either way i don't see him as our long term option unless he does something miraculous this off season.
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Old 04-08-2011, 06:53 AM   #40 (permalink)
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I'm still on the fence.
I like the guy ... hustle, tough, shows signs of leadership, decent handle on the ball. Can he continue to learn the PG spot to be our starter of a 'great team'? Not sure

He needs to work on his game all summer ... shooting, control, etc
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