Jeff Weltman to join Ujiri's staff after the draft?
Old 06-09-2013, 05:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Jeff Weltman to join Ujiri's staff after the draft?

This is from Peter Vecsey so take it with a grain of salt, but with this being rumored already it's probably true.

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Peter Vecsey: Jeff Weltman will remain w Bucks until after draft, then join Raptors as 2d in command under Masai Ujiri, it has been learned/confirmed Twitter @PeterVecsey1
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Old 06-09-2013, 07:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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was probably hoping he'd be with us for the draft .
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Old 06-09-2013, 07:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I feel like this Jeff guy won't be putting in full effort for the Bucks at the draft if this is the case. :cookie:
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Old 06-09-2013, 10:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I feel like this Jeff guy won't be putting in full effort for the Bucks at the draft if this is the case. :cookie:
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What if he decides all of a sudden that there is nobody good at the bucks' slot and suggests trading their pick to Toronto :cookie:
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What if he decides all of a sudden that there is nobody good at the bucks' slot and suggests trading their pick to Toronto :cookie:
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Old 06-10-2013, 05:36 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:26 AM   #7 (permalink)
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We don't need a draft specialist for the draft we don't have a pick in.

And if he is the man behind Bucks' recent drafting success - I am excited.
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:29 AM   #8 (permalink)
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This guy was rumored to be a frontrunner for the Suns GM spot, so here's a brief bio from a Suns blog:

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Fox Sports Arizona’s Randy Hill writes that even in a smaller role, Weltman has been significantly influencing his teams as a scout and talent evaluator.

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He became the assistant to legendary player-turned-general manager Elgin Baylor in 1994, and he had a big impact on the Clippers’ roster shakeup on draft night 2000.
Although the Clippers weren’t able to parlay their talent upgrade into appreciable success right away, Weltman did play a big role in moves that landed rookies Darius Miles, Keyon Dooling and Quentin Richardson as well as first-year swingman Corey Maggette that evening. The Clippers eventually built a talented young roster that included the aforementioned players along with Lamar Odom and Elton Brand.
That’s exactly what Lon Babby is searching for, and it’s important to remember he isn’t necessarily leaning toward someone with general manager experience.
With the Bucks, the 48-year-old Weltman and the front office has produced a mixed bag of results (though as an aside, it’s hardly the front office’s fault that Milwaukee doesn’t play its midseason trade acquisition, J.J. Redick, when the Bucks need perimeter facing to have any shot at beating LeBron James and the Heat).

Three months ago, Weltman received a contract extension to continue working under Bucks general manager John Hammond, who also saw his contract renewed. The support thrown Weltman’s way helped to affirm what the Suns might’ve seen in the assistant general manager three years ago.

So if the Suns hired Weltman, what would they be getting?

First and formost, it appears Weltman is leaps and bounds ahead of his predecessor in dealing with the media. As Michael Schwartz and I discussed last week, one of Blanks’ biggest downfalls was his dealings with people, especially the media. Weltman, in contrast, is plenty fine with sitting down with a blog such as this one. He did a two-part series with SB Nation’s BrewHoop.com, which gave a striking clarity to his philosophies.

In the second part of the series, Weltman discusses the value of analytics, but he hardly treads negatively on coaches who don’t use them on a day-to-day basis — a good sign considering the Suns have dealt with enough cross-job-description meddling of late. And if you were wondering what he was doing in the span between his 2006 departure from the Nuggets and his return to the league with the Pistons, check out his archive writing Scouts Inc. pieces for ESPN Insider.

The downsides of bringing on Weltman first begin with his experience. He’s never held a true decision-making position, but at the same time it’s hard to argue he’d be entering that in Phoenix. He’s also never been in a position to truly comb the NBA market for outright stars in the small market of Milwaukee. Monta Ellis might have been the biggest coup, and Weltman’s ability to think big could be a question mark coming into a decent market for NBA stars — or so we’re told.

Yet, the talent evaluation strengths can’t be overstated. The Clippers had some nice pieces, as Hill noted, and the Bucks had decent later lottery picks such as Brandon Jennings, Larry Sanders and John Henson. The Tobias Harris selection two years ago is looking like quite the gem as well — then again, it’s important to ask why the Bucks traded him only to tick off free-agent-to-be J.J. Redick.
Source: Why Jeff Weltman might work for the wonky Suns GM position
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Old 06-10-2013, 03:02 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The fan590 on the radio, just reported that Jeff is indeed coming to the Raptors as assistant GM after the 2013 draft...is he any good?

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Old 06-10-2013, 03:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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The fan590 on the radio, just reported that Jeff is indeed coming to the Raptors as assistant GM after the 2013 draft...is he any good?

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Recent picks Bucks have made since he went there:

2008 - 8th - Joe Alexander
2008 - 37th - Mbah a Moute
2009 - 10th - Brandon Jennings
2009 - 41st - Jodie Meeks
2010 - 15th - Larry Sanders
2010 - 37/47 - Gallon and Hobson
2011 - 19th - Tobias Harris
2011 - 40th - Jon Leuer -
2012 - 14th - John Henson
2012 - 42th - Doron Lamb


Not bad, bit of a mixed bag.
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Old 06-10-2013, 04:43 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Recent picks Bucks have made since he went there:

2008 - 8th - Joe Alexander
2008 - 37th - Mbah a Moute
2009 - 10th - Brandon Jennings
2009 - 41st - Jodie Meeks
2010 - 15th - Larry Sanders
2010 - 37/47 - Gallon and Hobson
2011 - 19th - Tobias Harris
2011 - 40th - Jon Leuer -
2012 - 14th - John Henson
2012 - 42th - Doron Lamb


Not bad, bit of a mixed bag.
Actually pretty good. Mbah a Moute, Sanders,Tobias Harris and John Henson would be more than welcome on the Raptors and Cleveland managed to leverage Jon Leuer into a bunch of useful pieces from Memphis. Jennings has fallen prey to his ego, but his rookie year was lights out. If some coach can straighten him out, he could be a player again.
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Old 06-10-2013, 06:10 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Recent picks Bucks have made since he went there:

2008 - 8th - Joe Alexander
2008 - 37th - Mbah a Moute
2009 - 10th - Brandon Jennings
2009 - 41st - Jodie Meeks
2010 - 15th - Larry Sanders
2010 - 37/47 - Gallon and Hobson
2011 - 19th - Tobias Harris
2011 - 40th - Jon Leuer -
2012 - 14th - John Henson
2012 - 42th - Doron Lamb


Not bad, bit of a mixed bag.
Those are actually amazing picks, outside of Joe Alexander at 8. Like niggles said, many of those picks have become successful. I am especially impressed with some of the 2nd round picks- Mbah a Moute and Jodie Meeks especially.
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Old 06-10-2013, 06:12 PM   #13 (permalink)
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those basically are all nba players, nice
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Old 06-10-2013, 06:28 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Raptors since 2008 not too shabby :cookie:
2008 1 17 Roy Hibbert (traded to Indiana)
2009 1 9 DeMar DeRozan
2010 1 13 Ed Davis
2011 1 5 Jonas Valančiūnas
2012 1 8 Terrence Ross
2012 2 37 Quincy Acy
2012 2 56 Tomislav Zubčić

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3...2...1... ten posts pointing out Roy Hibbert wasn't our pick.
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3...2...1... ten posts pointing out Roy Hibbert wasn't our pick.
Yeah I was waiting for that. It's true he wasn't but it's been pointed out to death....whatever.
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we didn't pick Hibbert. :cookie:
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Raptors since 2008 not too shabby :cookie:
2008 1 17 Jermaine O'Neal
2009 1 9 DeMar DeRozan
2010 1 13 Ed Davis
2011 1 5 Jonas Valančiūnas
2012 1 8 Terrence Ross
2012 2 37 Quincy Acy
2012 2 56 Tomislav Zubčić

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Old 06-25-2013, 09:23 AM   #19 (permalink)
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BUCKS BEAT: Top draft prospects take a pass : Basketball

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Conspicuous by his absence at the Bucks’ workout Monday: assistant general manager Jeff Weltman, who is expected to take a similar job with Toronto any day now.
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Old 06-25-2013, 11:49 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Getting Larry Sanders @ 15 and Henson @ 14 are absolute steals. They have their power forward and center for their future with mid first round picks. We still don't know what we got with Ross @ 8. Work your magic Mr. Weltman!
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