James Johnson sent to Kings for 2nd Round Pick

jeffb · 07-16-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlito

I hate this trade. Probably one of the most skilled players we had and an excellent defensive presence.
Would of preferred him being included in a multiple players deal that brings back SF talent. This was done give we have Landry Fields who may not even be an upgrade to JJ, but with a higher salary. Fields will certainly be a decent journey men, but doesn't have the upside of JJ.
What's next BC? Second rounder for Jose?

Oh calm down, JJ was a good player but one of the most skilled? Come on! He's offensively challenged, can't shoot, is at times over weight. I love his defense and shot blocking ability. But this is a bench player we're talking about here.

snark · 07-16-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by LilRomeo

I've heard that he allegedly smoked weed inside the airplane lavatory and the whole team had to get off the plane.

I think his reputation as a high flyer actually came from his on court activities.

Zalgiris · 07-16-2012, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

Obviously something else is coming. Fields has not really played SF in the NBA let alone start there. And the only other true SF we have is Kleiza who in no way should be starting. Ross would get killed at SF and no way Derozan starts at SF unless we deal for a SG (ie: Tyreke Evans). Colangelo has to be pretty confident a deal can be made to do this.

BTW, listening to the fan this moring for the last 2hrs and there hasn't been one mention of this whatsoever.

I totally agree with you! Kleiza is awesome SF. He will average 12 points, 6rebs next season!!! Linas Kleiza is much much better player than JJ. Best BC's move this summer so far to keep Kleiza.

bjjs · 07-16-2012, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

Oh calm down, JJ was a good player but one of the most skilled? Come on! He's offensively challenged, can't shoot, is at times over weight. I love his defense and shot blocking ability. But this is a bench player we're talking about here.

He was also a habitual brain-farter. He couldn't help but float his head in the clouds at least a few times each game - always resulting in a basket for the other team or a turnover.

Johnson is not the type of guy you want on your team - especially when he thinks he's starting quality.

MrClutch · 07-16-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

I don't normally but I was curious what they'd say about this. Plus Howard is repeats today

good point and finally doug smith wakes up and posts this haha

LX · 07-16-2012, 08:12 AM

He lacked a few marbles. That was pretty clear from day one. And there was a report about the smoke detector in the airplane washroom that delayed that flight from Memphis. That's just stupid shit, and I have to admit I thought of JJ as soon as I read about that.

jeffb · 07-16-2012, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by LX

He lacked a few marbles. That was pretty clear from day one. And there was a report about the smoke detector in the airplane washroom that delayed that flight from Memphis. That's just stupid shit, and I have to admit I thought of JJ as soon as I read about that.

+1

Seems immature.

neojiphre · 07-16-2012, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bankiz

i think you mix some memories all together here.
bosh wasn't a real trade. we get tpe + 2*1st rd (our and miami)

the other deal was with NOH the same season :
Jaret jack + anderson + ????
for
bayless + peja

and we get ajinca as a wauver or a fa during the second half of this same season.

The TPE was used to make the Jack trade work bec of Peja's contract.

Anyways, I'm down for evaluating more players who will probably blow up soon. I can't wait to use that 2nd round pick to draft the next T-Mac, showcase his potential, then let him go for nothing.

moujik · 07-16-2012, 08:21 AM

This is horrendous!!
It's so fucking retarded, I wish now Raptors keep AB and fuck themselves in the arse, fucking morons!

jeffb · 07-16-2012, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by moujik

This is horrendous!!
It's so fucking retarded, I wish now Raptors keep AB and fuck themselves in the arse, fucking morons!

This over James Johnson? Really dude, step away from the ledge.

**halphbreedballer** · 07-16-2012, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by neojiphre

so the first rounder used to acquire him was turned into a 2nd rounder?

good job good effort BC!

We could of had Norris Cole...

AR1815 · 07-16-2012, 08:57 AM

I liked JJ, I thought he was a very solid defender and (when he was hitting his shot), a good player. So, I'm sad to see him go. But if this added cap space allows us to better fill the holes in the roster, I'm all for it.

Really hoping that BC has a concrete plan over the next few weeks. The Jose/PF situations need to be addressed, and the number of options is running out, with other teams snatching up FAs and making trades.

AR1815 · 07-16-2012, 08:57 AM

I liked JJ, I thought he was a very solid defender and (when he was hitting his shot), a good player. So, I'm sad to see him go. But if this added cap space allows us to better fill the holes in the roster, I'm all for it.

Really hoping that BC has a concrete plan over the next few weeks. The Jose/PF situations need to be addressed, and the number of options is running out, with other teams snatching up FAs and making trades.

**halphbreedballer** · 07-16-2012, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DanH

A couple things. Yes, this was probably a case of DC wanting him gone. The idea the coach is having a lot of input like this is a very good sign.

Second, you can't look at a string of trades to determine their worth. Trading a late 1st for JJ for a possibly heavily protected 2nd can't be seen as a simple exchange of picks. The whole point of a draft pick is to give a team a chance to evaluate a young player and decide whether to keep them. JJ was acquired via a draft pick for exactly that reason. Heck, if the 2nd rounder ends up actually coming to the Raps, I'll consider it a huge bonus - it would mean we got to evaluate JJ for free, and still have a similarly good chance to evaluate another player.

Wow Dan really good points!
You have convinced me that this is a good deal BC should hire you as his writer dude!

carp · 07-16-2012, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by halphbreedballer

We could of had Norris Cole...

That guy looks better than he is beside Lebron and Wade.... he's nothing special

MikeToronto · 07-16-2012, 09:03 AM

WTF? no, seriously

Kirby · 07-16-2012, 09:09 AM

Some people on this board are ridiculous. You guys all think that BC didn't look for other trade possibilities or something? He just put all his scenerios into a hat and ended up with this one?

Just like I'm sure we could have traded down to get Lowry + Ross but he opted to just pick Ross straight up. Think about it man... Not to mention he already had said that any trade doe the 8th would have taken them out of the first round.

DonMughal · 07-16-2012, 09:14 AM

nooooooooooooooo

**Raptorman** · 07-16-2012, 09:23 AM

JJ was my fav Rap for many games this season. His hustle inspired.

His locker room attitude must have been terrible to get him benched and then shipped for practically nothing.

I'm going to side with Casey on this one. You cant start something with a head case in your camp.

LOG · 07-16-2012, 09:42 AM

It's hard to believe that this move was made to free up some cap, because JJ's salary was pretty low. He really must be a

or banging Casey's wife

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07-16-2012, 08:12 AM	#46 (permalink)
LX is a belly putter in a world of crotch shots In the Paint Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 23,572 Representing:	He lacked a few marbles. That was pretty clear from day one. And there was a report about the smoke detector in the airplane washroom that delayed that flight from Memphis. That's just stupid shit, and I have to admit I thought of JJ as soon as I read about that.

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moujik is threat inside Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 521 Representing:	This is horrendous!! It's so fucking retarded, I wish now Raptors keep AB and fuck themselves in the arse, fucking morons!

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AR1815 is set adrift on a memory bliss of you. Reptars Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 852 Representing:	I liked JJ, I thought he was a very solid defender and (when he was hitting his shot), a good player. So, I'm sad to see him go. But if this added cap space allows us to better fill the holes in the roster, I'm all for it. Really hoping that BC has a concrete plan over the next few weeks. The Jose/PF situations need to be addressed, and the number of options is running out, with other teams snatching up FAs and making trades.

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AR1815 is set adrift on a memory bliss of you. Reptars Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 852 Representing:	I liked JJ, I thought he was a very solid defender and (when he was hitting his shot), a good player. So, I'm sad to see him go. But if this added cap space allows us to better fill the holes in the roster, I'm all for it. Really hoping that BC has a concrete plan over the next few weeks. The Jose/PF situations need to be addressed, and the number of options is running out, with other teams snatching up FAs and making trades.

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MikeToronto is Gam zeh ya'avor The Gatekeeper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,544 Representing:	WTF? no, seriously

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DonMughal is the boss Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Mississauga Posts: 3,055 Representing:	nooooooooooooooo

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Raptorman is @ www.raptorman.ca RF Affiliate Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,711 Representing:	JJ was my fav Rap for many games this season. His hustle inspired. His locker room attitude must have been terrible to get him benched and then shipped for practically nothing. I'm going to side with Casey on this one. You cant start something with a head case in your camp.

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LOG is trying to learn tolerance, and let others believe what they want to believe. Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,422 Representing:	It's hard to believe that this move was made to free up some cap, because JJ's salary was pretty low. He really must be a or banging Casey's wife