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Old 03-19-2010, 11:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I cant bare to watch this anymore. Im passed the point where im pissed off, I am now so disgusted with this team that I have given up any and ALL HOPE. I don't even get mad anymore because when i used to get mad its beacuse i believed they could do better and improve, but that no longer is the case.

Yes, we WILL make the playoffs, but will be out in a couple of games (can anyone disagree with this???). This group doesn't have the will/desire/fire to compete and out hustle opposing teams on a nightly basis, for whatever reason it may be, they JUST CAN'T GET THE JOB DONE.

Im starting to see this team fall apart, i can tell it by their faces, attitude and the way they carry themselves, they have given up on themselves and each other, especially Bosh. I see him playing a lot of 1 vs 1 as he doesn't seem to trust anyone but himself (and i don't blame him).

The mix of players on this team is not right and i don't believe the coaching is as good as it can be either. So this leaves the team in a really bad predicament whether Bosh stays or leaves.

Bosh can stay with us and resign but lets be honest with each other, he clearly isn't happy with certain players on this team (Hedo, Bargs etc.). And if he agrees to return he will want changes and some players out and some new ones in. But with hedo's contract i don't see much talent coming back, the only good thing that can come out of a Hedo trade at this point is draft picks and expiring contracts, which will totally defeat the purpose of having Bosh resign, oh and Andrea isnt going nowhere, don't think Colangelo is willing to package him yet.

So I think it is CLEAR AS DAY as to what needs to be done with this franchise starting this off season....REBUILD

Step 1: Send Bosh to a team that can net us young talent, and some future picks.

Step 2: Repeat step 1 with jose and hedo.

once we get rid of chris, jose and hedo i think the ground work is laid out as long as BC nets solid picks and young players in return. From here struggle for a couple of years and in the near future be able to put on display a nice young team that can mesh with each other and hopefully play hard everyday.

I know this is hard to hear, but lets be real honest right here and take a broad view of this team and where its headed if we stick with this group of players......I never thought i would have said this, but it TIME to DISMANTLE this team and rebuild alongside the JAYS and the LEAFS.....

PS if you read this fully, I give you mad RESPECT
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Old 03-20-2010, 03:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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i agree, it hurts to watch...

I remember watching the OKC game today and the Raps were all putting their hands in the middle for a "go team go" and turk didnt even bother... he's been nothing but a douche baggin wanker since he got here... Bargs just doesn't seem to have any kind of passion to express... Jose's all over the map... unload a couple of these euros and hell, we'd be pretty good!
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Old 03-20-2010, 06:10 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Well I hate to agree but must.

On paper this had the makings of a very good team this year especially with the surprise performance of Weems and Amir.

Turk looked like a good move especially since it allowed the Raptors to get additional players. But unless there is something physically wrong that hasn't been disclosed he has been a total bust.

Jack was a good signing not just because he was Bosh's friend but he is a solid back-up but not a starter.

Ive always loved Jose but his deficencies are magnified on the current team he would be a star on a team like the Lakers.

Wright has been a cancer and if I was management I would buy him out. He has terrible shot selection and his defense is no where what he thinks it is.

We traded to for a non performer and got Reggie with heart but no skill at least his contract expires next year.

Bosh a good to excellent player but not a leader would rather have Boozer or Lee cheaper and more leadership.

Bargs if he could have 70% of those flash days a steal.

Beli is OK but would trade him in a second.

Rest really don't matter.

If I could as a GM would trade Jose to Lakers for Brown or Farmar and Walton ( assuming Walton can pass a physical) and draft pick. If Walton healthy good defense and limited offense.

Trade Bosh and Hedo for Lee, Curry, Sergio and Chandler and draft picks

Obviously Curry is useless but rest OK and Curry's contract expires at end of 2010/11 season.

Still have pieces to tinker.
Need to resign Amir and let all other expirings go.
At the end of 2010/11 have about 27 million in expiring contracts.
If we suck its OK
If no other trades we would have Lee 10 million, Bargs, Walton, DD, Beli,Chandler and hopefully resign Weems for 3 million. We would have a 40 million payroll.
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Old 03-20-2010, 06:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Well I hate to agree but must.

On paper this had the makings of a very good team this year especially with the surprise performance of Weems and Amir.

Turk looked like a good move especially since it allowed the Raptors to get additional players. But unless there is something physically wrong that hasn't been disclosed he has been a total bust.

Jack was a good signing not just because he was Bosh's friend but he is a solid back-up but not a starter.

Ive always loved Jose but his deficencies are magnified on the current team he would be a star on a team like the Lakers.

Wright has been a cancer and if I was management I would buy him out. He has terrible shot selection and his defense is no where what he thinks it is.

We traded to for a non performer and got Reggie with heart but no skill at least his contract expires next year.

Bosh a good to excellent player but not a leader would rather have Boozer or Lee cheaper and more leadership.

Bargs if he could have 70% of those flash days a steal.

Beli is OK but would trade him in a second.

Rest really don't matter.

If I could as a GM would trade Jose to Lakers for Brown or Farmar and Walton ( assuming Walton can pass a physical) and draft pick. If Walton healthy good defense and limited offense.

Trade Bosh and Hedo for Lee, Curry, Sergio and Chandler and draft picks

Obviously Curry is useless but rest OK and Curry's contract expires at end of 2010/11 season.

Still have pieces to tinker.
Need to resign Amir and let all other expirings go.
At the end of 2010/11 have about 27 million in expiring contracts.
If we suck its OK
If no other trades we would have Lee 10 million, Bargs, Walton, DD, Beli,Chandler and hopefully resign Weems for 3 million. We would have a 40 million payroll.
wow...just wow....
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Old 03-20-2010, 07:38 AM   #5 (permalink)
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unlike the Jays GM, BC is allergic to drafting or setting up a foundation
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Old 03-20-2010, 07:55 AM   #6 (permalink)
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unlike the Jays GM, BC is allergic to drafting or setting up a foundation
panic mode again huhlol we still have options.... let get baron davis
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Old 03-20-2010, 07:58 AM   #7 (permalink)
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unlike the Jays GM, BC is allergic to drafting or setting up a foundation
I dont think you can find many GM's that would be willing to start a complete rebuilding process when they still have a young star in the caliber of Bosh. He is probably a top-10 player in the league and had BC started rebuilding before his contract end he would have been sure to find another place, knowing that rebuilding wont happen in year or two. Look how long and how much the Sonics/Thunder had to suck before getting all this talent. And their star before the rebuilding (Allen) was already on decline when he was traded away.

Maybe if Bosh leaves a rebuilding process becomes inevitable, but before that is sure, there just wasnt any point to it. Had we been bit luckier/better with our big trades these past two off-season, we might actually be a contender. Unfortunately both JO and Hedo deals backfired.

I still got to mention how funny it is to see the panic on the forum after one bad beating. Even funnier considering we lost to probably the hottest team in the league that is an absolute matchup nightmare for us. Of course there were those losses before that too, but the huge panic only started after this game that went pretty much as one could expect. We just arent that good of a team that we could beat OKC right now (or to beat good teams in away games). Still we are a lot better than last season and are probably landing right around the neighbourhood that people on average though before the season. I know some optimists were thinking we might get 50 wins, but reaslisticly .500 season is pretty good after what we accomplished last season. Getting to second round was a nice dream, but I think the first round exist that we will see in a month was a realistic outcome for the season.
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Old 03-20-2010, 08:17 AM   #8 (permalink)
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one bad beating
Raps have lost 10 of 12 now
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Old 03-20-2010, 08:31 AM   #9 (permalink)
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if Bosh goes we have no choice, thats when you only keep:

demar
andrea
amir
weems

and sell the rest of the team
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Old 03-20-2010, 12:51 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Turkoglu one of the worst contracts in the NBA.

Definitely worst contract in Raptor history.
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Old 03-20-2010, 01:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Turkoglu is terrible but not the worst contract , the number one is Hakeem the dream, he was by far the worst waste of money. He played for not even a season, and for the next two years he was getting payed to stay at home.
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Old 03-20-2010, 01:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Definitely worst contract in Raptor history.
No he's not.

Hakeem
Jalen Rose

Were worse.
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Old 03-20-2010, 01:28 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I'm giving them a pass for last nights's game. They've been working hard in practice coming off a west coast trip, with no days off trying to get their game back. Last night there was an obvious lack of energy and jump in their legs. The extra work will pay off however after they get a day's rest. I expect much better performances next week after we get todays Nets game out of the way. We should be able to sneak this one out even if playing second game in two nights. Sometimes you have to work them hard even if you risk losing the next game because it can pay off for several games in a row therafter. Finally Triano is starting to get it!

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I'm giving them a pass for last nights's game. They've been working hard in practice coming off a west coast trip, with no days off trying to get their game back. Last night there was an obvious lack of energy and jump in their legs. The extra work will pay off however after they get a day's rest. I expect much better performances next week after we get todays Nets game out of the way. We should be able to sneak this one out even if playing second game in two nights. Sometimes you have to work them hard even if you risk losing the next game because it can pay off for several games in a row therafter. Finally Triano is starting to get it!
I am not giving them a pass, I was there and I deserve a refund. Bunch of millionaire duds. Seriously if anyone put the effort they put in last night into school or work, they would fail or be fired.

Game was over before the first quarter was even finished.

OKC was allowed to score over 70 point in the first half alone, ridiculous.
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Old 03-20-2010, 01:45 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Turkoglu is the worst contract. He's the worst defender on the team can't score and gives up and and1 every time he fouls. Couple that with being a turnover machine and chucking, you have nothing to look forward to for the next 4 years.
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Old 03-20-2010, 02:08 PM   #16 (permalink)
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it's the mentality of this team. I remember watching Washington when they were getting their asses kicked by some elite team earlier in the season. You had a player like Jamison going all out, even when I watch teams like Charlotte on a bad night their effort is there. It's just pathetic how spoiled our team is. Memphis and OKC should be clear examples. They were terrible last year but the effort was always their, they earn their money
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hedo played only 16 min. last night and became the reason of the blowout again... lol

he showed a great hustle on D against ATL and after this 16 min. he became the worst defender on team again..lol

after 16 min. he became the worst contract ever again...

some of the guys on board must be smarter than all NBA GMs and coachs!
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hedo played only 16 min. last night and became the reason of the blowout again... lol

he showed a great hustle on D against ATL and after this 16 min. he became the worst defender on team again..lol

after 16 min. he became the worst contract ever again...
First off, who said he was the reason for the blowout. He did nothing at all to help the situation and was a contibuting factor to the brutal play.

Secondly, most here have been bitching about his bloated contract all season. I wasn't one of them until recently. I think that if he played even close to what he did the last two seasons in Orlando he'd be worth it. So far i was wayyyyyyyyy off. This guy is still out of shape for cripes sake....and it's fuckin' march!
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hedo played only 16 min. last night and became the reason of the blowout again... lol

he showed a great hustle on D against ATL and after this 16 min. he became the worst defender on team again..lol

after 16 min. he became the worst contract ever again...

some of the guys on board must be smarter than all NBA GMs and coachs!
Actually, no. No one here said he was the reason for the blowout, so stop putting words in people mouths.

Second, you're making the same mistake you're accusing others of (only looking at the ATL game and basing your opinion of him on that, while criticizing others of making an opinion of him based on the OKC game). So very hypocritical. How about we look at the season as a whole?

Thirdly, Hedo's contract IS a bust. But the blame should be put on BC, not Hedo.
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Actually, no. No one here said he was the reason for the blowout, so stop putting words in people mouths.

Second, you're making the same mistake you're accusing others of (only looking at the ATL game and basing your opinion of him on that, while criticizing others of making an opinion of him based on the OKC game). So very hypocritical. How about we look at the season as a whole?

Thirdly, Hedo's contract IS a bust. But the blame should be put on BC, not Hedo.
How can you say that? If Hedo was playing the way he has in previous years his massive contract wouldn't be an issue. Like I stated in some other thread, how was BC supposed to know he would produce the way he now after coming off two border-line all-star seasons and a stellar playoff run? It is not BC fault that he invested money in shit. Its the shit's responsibility to produce and earn his money.
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