Formless

Of course.
He hurts the team more than he helps them.

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the_ raps_analyst

+1, i cant remember which game, but he single handedly lost the magic one of the games. He kept missing wide open shots.

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Ugo Ferst

who has the sick help d, offensive rebounds, blocks, lane intimidation, and inside position on offense that makes a team full of jump shooters work?? Dont say Bargs plz. Yes we built a team similar to orlando, without the most important and hardest piece to get, the best C of a generation. Who btw, is as young (i think younger?) then AB, your acting like d12 has peaked, you are only getting a glimpse of what he will be, kinda like shaq when he lost in the finals to a far superior team when he was in orlando.

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Bmats7

Only on this forum does getting probably the most sought after FA this year mean bad news lol.

Once we get into a half court set.. teams can sag off of Marion and double Bosh/Bargs because Marion can't shoot for crap. I do hope we can keep delfino as an SG in the corner instead of Derozan to knock down his open 3.

Now tell me... which team in the league can single cover all of Bargs/Bosh/Turk??

It's basically pick your poison now. And it's great news for raps fans, and the Raptors are making some media buzz (more ticket sales). All good things. I agree 100% with your post Rasam.

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Windex

pick and roll all day

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the_ raps_analyst

yeah, im definitely going to a few raps games this year.

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Dr. J. Naismith

Yes, RaptorsForum is the only Raptors message board that are complaining about the Hedo signing. Gimme a break.

Have you been to the RealGM lately? Most their already want BC's head on a platter.

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Snooch

Hedo will be a very fine signing.

For sure the contract looks big, but I am sure there are team options there to get out of it.

I still think that Delfino will be a Rap next year but I think you will see Marion going to Orlando in a S&T with filler on our end to match up salaries(Banks/Hump maybe Reddick on their end)

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10gizzle

It's going to be much harder to double Bosh now with Hedo available to either catch and shoot or break the defense down off the dribble.

He'll definitely open up the offense for our other 3 big starters.

I just hope we get a nice defensive 2 man, though, I think Derozan will progess far more than most think. I think BC has a feeling that DD will contribute right away...

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gdaytday

Also think about a Bosh/Hedo pick and roll...both can go to the hoop or shoot it. Plus, we've got Bargs and Calderon spotting up if teams send an extra defender.

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gdaytday

You beat me to it...

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thriller92

They played get the ball out of Kobes hands defence, and Nelson was the idiot that didnt get up on Fisher at halfcourt so he would be uncomfortable bringing it up. SVG played it fine, Nelson just had a historic brainfart.

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Snooch

You are going to see a much larger roll from Bargs this season.

I think you are going to see alot of P&R's between Hedo and Bargs with Bosh crashing the boards.(put to use his bulking up).

Triano and BC sain they want a team to get up and down the floor-that is something far outside of Bosh's strength.

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CripwalkinK

I agree with most of your post here, Rasami. The only problem is that I think you're underrating Anthony Parker. His work ethic was terrific, he came to play every night and even though he was inconsistent offensively, he played some good man-to-man defense while the rest of the team was standing around like pylons. Every night, it was his task to take care of the best SG/SF on the other team and that's not much of an easy task so give him some credit. He was a good spirit and he really enjoyed playing and living in Toronto so him leaving is a bigger loss then you think it is. But I agree with the majority of your post, everybody is quick to panic in Raptor Nation and having a guy like Turkoglu choose Toronto over an American squad really raises eyebrows around the league which means we're finally getting noticed again.

I'm only hesitant about the length of the contract but that's to worry about in the future. For now, Raptor fans should embrace the acquisition of a new point forward (FINALLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!).

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thriller92

No, its Joses biggest weakness besides his D. Bosh is easily one of the most mobile bigs in the league, and with a PG that actually runs a fast break like Kidd you see him sprinting down the court. No point in doing so with Jose because Jose just backs it out everytime.

I think its pretty simple that with Hedo we're a pure halfcourt team.

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Windex

we offered more money
people will take notice once the Raps win some playoff games and attract top American talent

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•LX•

I'm pretty much with you Rasam. My only hesitancy comes from the fact that they had gotten their defense down pretty good with Marion. And then the emphasis all off-season thus far was about improving upon that further. Now I don't know if this signing plays out along those lines. I don't know that it doesn't either either. I'm just a little hesitant, and I hope that Hedo can be used in similar ways to Marion on the defensive end. When I see that happen I will over the moon. But after last season, I need to see it and not just hope to see it.

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10gizzle

I think that's a bit too much of an exaggeration there Thriller.

Sure Hedo is no Marion, but he has no problem pushing the ball up the court after turnovers or rebounds. I've seen him creat plenty of transition points for Orlando this year...He definitely likes those high risk passes that Calderon doesn't really attempt...If we can get a decent, athletic 2 man who can slash and play D I think we'll do just fine on the fast break.

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Windex

DeRozan?

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•LX•

Yep - I'd say the running was something they wanted to add, but they never gave up on the half-court game. To improve there without the gimmicks will be a big bonus that suits the personnel here in general.

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