If Evans falls to 9th, the Raptors will select him

Apollo · 05-31-2009, 01:14 PM

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Despite several Internet mock drafts that have Evans going 15th, he is being considered by the Kings and isn't expected to fall past the Washington Wizards at No. 5.

Evans will most certainly be taken by Toronto if he even makes it to the ninth pick based on intelligence from NBA insiders.

"I don't think there's any chance that he drops out of the top 10," Griz general manager Chris Wallace said. "He brings versatility to your team. He's got great size and terrific vision of the court. When he gets in the lane, he can see some things smaller guards can't. He needs to improve his shooting. But he can."

Evans added to the intrigue of NBA executives with his official measurements this week at the NBA's predraft combine.

The 6-5 guard has a wingspan of 6-111/4 -- the same as 6-10 forward and consensus top pick Griffin and just one inch shorter than LeBron James'.

Evans averaged 17.1 points mainly due to his ability to get to the rim.

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jeffb · 05-31-2009, 01:17 PM

I'd take him before Blair, but he probably won't be there. Boy, for a "weak draft" there seems to be alot of good possibilities for us @ #9.

Apollo · 05-31-2009, 01:19 PM

I know, I know! The thing is they could still possibly work a deal to get Blair later if this scenario played out.

Dark Knight · 05-31-2009, 01:50 PM

If he agrees to play the 2, then pick him

Admiral · 05-31-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

I'd take him before Blair, but he probably won't be there. Boy, for a "weak draft" there seems to be alot of good possibilities for us @ #9.

its because its such a "weak draft" that everyone is pretty much as good as each other or if you want to put it in another way, everyone is pretty much as bad as each other so everyone looks just as appealing

Raptorfan27 · 05-31-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Knight

If he agrees to play the 2, then pick him

agrees? draft picks agree to everything to get picked. why would u be asking him that anyway???

The MVP of West Hollywood · 05-31-2009, 03:40 PM

Meh on Tyreke. The only way he's not useless is when he's dominating the ball at all times, except he can't shoot, is slow, and doesn't pass much. I think his game will be like Iverson's was this year, which is not a good thing. He'll probably be one of those best player on a 22 win type guys, he'll get his 18ppg but it won't amount to a thing

Dark Knight · 05-31-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptorfan27

agrees? draft picks agree to everything to get picked. why would u be asking him that anyway???

What if we pick him and he refuses to play the 2 and pulls an Alonzo. Just pre cautionary

**zachus** · 05-31-2009, 04:41 PM

These kids have spent their whole lives dreaming of playing in the NBA, no draft pick is stupid enough to put that on hold and possibly screw it up just to play a specific position. Hell, he'd probably play centre if they really wanted him to.

thriller92 · 05-31-2009, 05:47 PM

I still dont understand the thought process behind picking Blair in the top 10. Hes obviously going to be a good to very good pro, but the guy is 6'7, how many 6'7 PFs start in the NBA? I cant think of one off the top of my head. Youre essentially using your lotto pick to pick at best a 6th man.

I guess that just goes to show you how bad this draft is. And I like Blairs game.

**'trane** · 05-31-2009, 05:54 PM

i'm with you on that thrills, but i don't see a lot of stars, and a 6th man that can provide some grit is one of the biggest needs at this point.

AR1815 · 05-31-2009, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by thriller92

I still dont understand the thought process behind picking Blair in the top 10. Hes obviously going to be a good to very good pro, but the guy is 6'7, how many 6'7 PFs start in the NBA?

He's a little undersized but you can't say with that much confidence that he won't be good. His arms are as long as a player half a foot taller than him, and he's a beast. I'm not sure how agile he is, but most PFs in the NBA tend to post up and play offense inside the paint. His lower and upper body strength will enable him to check pretty much anyone in the NBA. Remember how good Ben Wallace was on that championship Pistons team? I read several articles that said he was actually about 6'6", but just played a lot bigger. I think Blair has a good chance of developing into that kind of player.

And yes, he's never going to be a superstar but he can become a very quality role player (which is more than most players in the draft turn out to be). I personally don't think the Raptors should choose him over a SG (unless they have a surefire way of addressing that this off-season), but I'd love to see him end up on our team.

The MVP of West Hollywood · 05-31-2009, 06:22 PM

Blair is 6'6 but has huge arms giving him a 7'2 wingspan which is really nice, and a 8'10 standing reach which is respectable though a little undersized still. Your length matters more than how high your head is in the NBA, Elton Brand and Ben Wallace are both around 6'7-6'8 but can guard centers because their arms are gigantic. That's also why I'd be very concerned about Blake Griffin, he's listed at 6'10 but has a 6'11 wingspan and 8'9 standing reach which is awful. In comparison Beasley has a 7'0 wingspan and 8'11 standing reach and he's still clearly a tweener on the court. Griffin's a dead ringer for Carl Landry's measurements according to a guy who runs a database of them at realgm. He also measured basically the exact same as Tyler Hansbrough which is funny considering how much shit his pro prospects have gotten because he's undersized. Though considering he's still a energy/rebound guy who can't jump I still wouldn't take him past 25-30

I like Blair a lot, I don't know if he'll be a starter, but it's hard to guarantee getting one at 9 in a bad draft. If we trade Bosh we're going to need a big rebounder in the frontcourt to make up for Bargs, Blair should definitely help that. He's basically the best offensive rebounder in college history so he'd really help us there, we're like the worst offensive rebounding team in the league and without Bosh we'd be flat out embarrasing on that end

I'd prefer Hill if he was available and we went the big man route again, though. I think he'd bring toughness and rebounding but would have the size to be a Horford or Nene like PF/C beside Bosh or Bargnani or whoever's left after this offseason

Apollo · 05-31-2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Knight

What if we pick him and he refuses to play the 2 and pulls an Alonzo. Just pre cautionary

Why would he do that? Where in his past history has he demanded such a thing? He'll play where ever they want him to play. Zo got traded to Toronto after publicly saying he would not show up in Toronto if he were traded here. He kept his word after the trade. I'm not sure how a scenario like that could go down.

Windex · 06-01-2009, 03:27 AM

Evans would be nice but the Raps already have many players that demand the ball

**halphbreedballer** · 06-01-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TO2988

Evans would be nice but the Raps already have many players that demand the ball

Like who?

**zachus** · 06-01-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TO2988

Evans would be nice but the Raps already have many players that demand the ball

Aside from CB4 there really aren't a lot of guys that dominate the ball and act as black holes on offense. I actually think there are a lot of touches to go around.

Apollo · 06-01-2009, 08:07 PM

Bosh and he only gets 15 touches a game...Calderon, but he's the PG so its only natural and he's pretty selfless. The Raptors share the ball well but are crying out for another guard who can create his own and penetrate.

**zachus** · 06-01-2009, 08:09 PM

I mean even the guys that like to shoot have shown that they're willing to move the ball around. It's not like we've got any Ben Gordons or Corey Maggettes on this team. Call me crazy but it might be nice to have a wing player demanding the ball for once.

jeffb · 06-01-2009, 08:12 PM

Right now Marion/Bosh dominate the ball, more so Bosh. Calderon is too unselfish imo. Bargnani takes what he gets and doesn't demand the ball and AP is also very unselfish. The fact is this team needs a SG that can be "the guy". The guy that can create his own shot and get to the rim while defending his position. Won't be easy, but it's what this team has lacked for years.

05-31-2009, 06:22 PM	#13 (permalink)
The MVP of West Hollywood is it's so cold in the d Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,148 Representing:	Blair is 6'6 but has huge arms giving him a 7'2 wingspan which is really nice, and a 8'10 standing reach which is respectable though a little undersized still. Your length matters more than how high your head is in the NBA, Elton Brand and Ben Wallace are both around 6'7-6'8 but can guard centers because their arms are gigantic. That's also why I'd be very concerned about Blake Griffin, he's listed at 6'10 but has a 6'11 wingspan and 8'9 standing reach which is awful. In comparison Beasley has a 7'0 wingspan and 8'11 standing reach and he's still clearly a tweener on the court. Griffin's a dead ringer for Carl Landry's measurements according to a guy who runs a database of them at realgm. He also measured basically the exact same as Tyler Hansbrough which is funny considering how much shit his pro prospects have gotten because he's undersized. Though considering he's still a energy/rebound guy who can't jump I still wouldn't take him past 25-30 I like Blair a lot, I don't know if he'll be a starter, but it's hard to guarantee getting one at 9 in a bad draft. If we trade Bosh we're going to need a big rebounder in the frontcourt to make up for Bargs, Blair should definitely help that. He's basically the best offensive rebounder in college history so he'd really help us there, we're like the worst offensive rebounding team in the league and without Bosh we'd be flat out embarrasing on that end I'd prefer Hill if he was available and we went the big man route again, though. I think he'd bring toughness and rebounding but would have the size to be a Horford or Nene like PF/C beside Bosh or Bargnani or whoever's left after this offseason Last edited by The MVP of West Hollywood; 05-31-2009 at 07:06 PM.

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jeffb is Pissed, WINDOWS 7 was his idea!!! Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 18,973 Representing:	I'd take him before Blair, but he probably won't be there. Boy, for a "weak draft" there seems to be alot of good possibilities for us @ #9.

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Apollo is a dick Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,155 Representing:	I know, I know! The thing is they could still possibly work a deal to get Blair later if this scenario played out.

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Dark Knight is holding his breath until the Raptors win another game. Starting...now! Future Mod :D Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Your mom's pants! :O Posts: 5,784 Representing:	If he agrees to play the 2, then pick him

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The MVP of West Hollywood is it's so cold in the d Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,148 Representing:	Meh on Tyreke. The only way he's not useless is when he's dominating the ball at all times, except he can't shoot, is slow, and doesn't pass much. I think his game will be like Iverson's was this year, which is not a good thing. He'll probably be one of those best player on a 22 win type guys, he'll get his 18ppg but it won't amount to a thing

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zachus is a Raptors fan Free DeMar DeRozan Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,860 Representing:	These kids have spent their whole lives dreaming of playing in the NBA, no draft pick is stupid enough to put that on hold and possibly screw it up just to play a specific position. Hell, he'd probably play centre if they really wanted him to.

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thriller92 is thinking about whats to come. Calderon has eyes Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ottawa Posts: 4,880 Representing:	I still dont understand the thought process behind picking Blair in the top 10. Hes obviously going to be a good to very good pro, but the guy is 6'7, how many 6'7 PFs start in the NBA? I cant think of one off the top of my head. Youre essentially using your lotto pick to pick at best a 6th man. I guess that just goes to show you how bad this draft is. And I like Blairs game.

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'trane is getting it clearly through alternate paths or mixed in with the signal you're sending. giant steps Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: toronto Posts: 8,186 Representing:	i'm with you on that thrills, but i don't see a lot of stars, and a 6th man that can provide some grit is one of the biggest needs at this point.

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Windex is the coon fresh and clean Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mediterranean Posts: 7,991 Representing:	Evans would be nice but the Raps already have many players that demand the ball

06-01-2009, 08:07 PM	#18 (permalink)
Apollo is a dick Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,155 Representing:	Bosh and he only gets 15 touches a game...Calderon, but he's the PG so its only natural and he's pretty selfless. The Raptors share the ball well but are crying out for another guard who can create his own and penetrate.

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zachus is a Raptors fan Free DeMar DeRozan Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,860 Representing:	I mean even the guys that like to shoot have shown that they're willing to move the ball around. It's not like we've got any Ben Gordons or Corey Maggettes on this team. Call me crazy but it might be nice to have a wing player demanding the ball for once.

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jeffb is Pissed, WINDOWS 7 was his idea!!! Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 18,973 Representing:	Right now Marion/Bosh dominate the ball, more so Bosh. Calderon is too unselfish imo. Bargnani takes what he gets and doesn't demand the ball and AP is also very unselfish. The fact is this team needs a SG that can be "the guy". The guy that can create his own shot and get to the rim while defending his position. Won't be easy, but it's what this team has lacked for years.