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Old 06-02-2013, 05:37 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Dallas to back up Dirk. Since he's a poor man's Nowitski.
mark cuban would never want bargnanis poor work ethic on his team
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:09 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I like how carried away the Jackals get at hacking on Bargnani. A season removed from averaging like 18 and 7...ya, he's a real piece of shit.
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I like how carried away the Jackals get at hacking on Bargnani. A season removed from averaging like 18 and 7...ya, he's a real piece of shit.
Dude, Bargnani has never averaged 7 rebounds. He's only averaged 6 once in his career, and that was 3 years ago. If Bargs was active enough to grab 7, he'd be a much different guy and people would feel differently about him. He can definitely score when his game is on, but he comes with some serious deficiencies as well (that's why he's incapable of grabbing 7 boards). I haven't lost hope that we can trade him, but it could get to the point where we have to amnesty him.
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:31 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I like how carried away the Jackals get at hacking on Bargnani. A season removed from averaging like 18 and 7...ya, he's a real piece of shit.
So you support players who dog it on the court? He IS a piece of shit. When a player has multiple games every season where you can easily see he's not giving full effort, or making the same mistakes over and over again, how can you defend him?

Yes, he has talent. But who cares if he doesn't put the effort in to maximize it? If he still attempted to play hard defence, rebound the ball, and make the right offensive plays consistently, especially when his shot wasn't on, I guarantee you that him being traded wouldnt be the most talked about subject in Raptorland, and his trade value would be much better than what it is right now, which is essentially trading for a worse contract, or 2 contracts with the same amount of years. He deserves every bit of criticism he gets.
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:45 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Old 06-02-2013, 11:21 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Old 06-03-2013, 12:40 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:47 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Oh I dunno bud, I think he guy that created the thread cares, so you know, be nice. It's a pretty relevant question. Whether or not any of us can possibly have any idea who might want him, understanding where he might actually fit, then land, is actually pretty helpful. If people have a firm grasp of how big, or how small the actual market for him might be, then, they can more realistically discuss the entire situation, on this, and other threads.

So I think a lot of people might care, because if they don't, then by simple logic, they also don't really care about whether or not he leaves, if they did, they would have pt some thought into it.
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:18 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:26 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I like how carried away the Jackals get at hacking on Bargnani. A season removed from averaging like 18 and 7...ya, he's a real piece of shit.
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:26 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:29 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Hey Doc, all Im saying really is that after a while, mob rule will make ountians of mole hills. Bargnani is no where near as bad as people say, not to the point where these guys seem actually disgusted, offended or personally angry at him. He just wasnt as good as he could have been a basketball.

Just like he isnt as good as guys like me said he was for 5 years, because clearly, good is as good does and he hasn't done that much good, therefore, he isn't that good.
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Hey Doc, all Im saying really is that after a while, mob rule will make ountians of mole hills. Bargnani is no where near as bad as people say, not to the point where these guys seem actually disgusted, offended or personally angry at him. He just wasnt as good as he could have been a basketball.

Just like he isnt as good as guys like me said he was for 5 years, because clearly, good is as good does and he hasn't done that much good, therefore, he isn't that good.
I get it SJ, it's the bolded part that I agree with the most and it confuses me about the 'why' of it. Bargs has a tremendous skillset but it didn't translate onto the floor consistantly - which makes him a poor basketball player. For whatever reasons - coaches, players, position, system, coach changes, doesn't matter as they just become excuses and I get that.

I like the idea of Bargs on a team like GSW - personally I think he'll revive himself in a different organization and that will be good for him and us.

This personal affront some have......I don't get that.
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Old 06-03-2013, 12:21 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I like how carried away the Jackals get at hacking on Bargnani. A season removed from averaging like 18 and 7...ya, he's a real piece of shit.
18/7?? When the hell has he ever averaged 7rpg? Boy you love pointing your finger at people.

11-12: he averaged 19.5/5.5

^ And that's in 31 games in a mostly injury riddled season. His last three seasons he's missed a total of 93 games. Beyond that 13 game stretch in 11-12 he's been awful and often injured, especially last season. And moving him is as much for him as it is for us. You think he's happy here?
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Old 06-03-2013, 12:36 PM   #35 (permalink)
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18/7?? When the hell has he ever averaged 7rpg? Boy you love pointing your finger at people.

11-12: he averaged 19.5/5.5

^ And that's in 31 games in a mostly injury riddled season. His last three seasons he's missed a total of 93 games. Beyond that 13 game stretch in 11-12 he's been awful and often injured, especially last season. And moving him is as much for him as it is for us. You think he's happy here?
I don't think SJ is against him moving Jeffy, stop trying to stir the pot. SJ hasn't been the biggest fan of AB but he and I are commenting on this personal affront from posters.
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Old 06-03-2013, 12:42 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I don't think SJ is against him moving Jeffy, stop trying to stir the pot. SJ hasn't been the biggest fan of AB but he and I are commenting on this personal affront from posters.
Why? It's been going on for quite some time..and it's not hard to figure out why with the last 7yrs.
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Old 06-03-2013, 01:44 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Why? It's been going on for quite some time..and it's not hard to figure out why with the last 7yrs.
Hey, it's not like AB broke into your house and violated stuff. It's just basketball lol.
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Old 06-04-2013, 05:23 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Old 06-04-2013, 09:17 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Hey, it's not like AB broke into your house and violated stuff. It's just basketball lol.
lol.... that we know of!

Sometimes players just need a fresh start. I'm sure he was just as sick of hanging out at the three point line watching iso ball as the rest of us! He just needs a coach that doesn't allow/rely on him to take long lazy twos all day long.
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Old 06-04-2013, 11:27 AM   #40 (permalink)
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I have the ominous feeling that Bargs will be here next year. I mean, who would be insane enough to pick up his contract without trying to offload their own overpaid busts? And he's been on the trading block for so long, rival GMs know we're pretty much desperate to move him and can use that as leverage. This is gonna take a lot of creativity from Ujiri, not an enviable position to be in.

But I guess if a team was shortsighted enough to pick up Hedo from us, hope remains...
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