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Old 08-07-2010, 12:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!! There has been hardly any posts on RF for the last two weeks!!!!! We need something to talk about!
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Old 08-07-2010, 12:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I bet he is doing a lot right now, it's just that he's not telling the media (see: Charlotte deal and Matt Barnes).
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Old 08-07-2010, 12:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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There hasn't been much NBA news in general the last few weeks. I expect the final moves to round out the roster will come in the next week or so. I doubt he'll go much past mid-august before doing something. Doug Smith said today that he still expects one of the PG's to be move and Reggie & possibly Banks as well. I still say BC is gonna make one more good size move and will use some of the TPE in the process.
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^ Do you believe these "final moves" are going to be major?
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Old 08-07-2010, 12:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
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^ Do you believe these "final moves" are going to be major?
Well, we have a 15Mil TPE, Jose to deal, expirings and 3 2011 picks. Anything can happen. Major though, is probably a stretch. I'd say a decent move or two likely for a Center and either a PG or SF. I'd say two more players will be brought in and 2+ players going out... Jose/Evans??
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^ I see Jose getting traded, but maybe after the season starts.
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Old 08-07-2010, 12:43 PM   #7 (permalink)
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^ I see Jose getting traded, but maybe after the season starts.
I doubt it. After what went down a month ago (Jose being told he was being traded and it falling through) BC doesn't seem the type to then not deal that player and let things fester.
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Old 08-07-2010, 12:46 PM   #8 (permalink)
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While you may think Jose will get traded it is just as likely to see Jack go.
In fact more likely since he has a higher value.
The situation at point guard isn't productive currently 4 JJ Jose Barbosa & Banks.
Last year to get minutes JJ had to play SG and both play SG and PG same time in a less than satisfactory results.
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Old 08-07-2010, 12:58 PM   #9 (permalink)
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While you may think Jose will get traded it is just as likely to see Jack go.
In fact more likely since he has a higher value.
The situation at point guard isn't productive currently 4 JJ Jose Barbosa & Banks.
Last year to get minutes JJ had to play SG and both play SG and PG same time in a less than satisfactory results.
To get minutes? He started at PG for nearly 3 months, infact when he started (mid december-march) we were the 3rd hottest team in the league. As for Jack having a higher value, true (he's younger and has played better the last 2 seasons then Jose has) but he makes half the money. Half the money = less return. Plus, since Jose was already traded (until it fell through) it seems pretty clear that BC would rather keep Jack and shed a crappy contract with Jose.
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Old 08-07-2010, 01:06 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I bet he is doing a lot right now, it's just that he's not telling the media (see: Charlotte deal and Matt Barnes).
I agree. Just cuz we don't see it, doesn't mean things aren't happening.
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Old 08-07-2010, 01:18 PM   #11 (permalink)
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colangelo shouldnt rush to make a trade. he needs to take his time and thats what hes doing
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Old 08-07-2010, 01:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
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the roster as you see it most likely be the opening day roster
might get a bench big thru some kind of small trade, FA or D League type deal
but this is it
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Old 08-07-2010, 01:21 PM   #13 (permalink)
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To get minutes? He started at PG for nearly 3 months, infact when he started (mid december-march) we were the 3rd hottest team in the league. As for Jack having a higher value, true (he's younger and has played better the last 2 seasons then Jose has) but he makes half the money. Half the money = less return. Plus, since Jose was already traded (until it fell through) it seems pretty clear that BC would rather keep Jack and shed a crappy contract with Jose.
Jeff...

You can trade Jack and throw in a expiring and get the same if not better return ...

because...

like you said "he's younger and has played better the last 2 seasons then Jose has" and whatever team takes him will be able to shed salary via expiring Evans/banks contracts...
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Well, we have a 15Mil TPE, Jose to deal, expirings and 3 2011 picks. Anything can happen. Major though, is probably a stretch. I'd say a decent move or two likely for a Center and either a PG or SF. I'd say two more players will be brought in and 2+ players going out... Jose/Evans??
15Mil TPE will expire or take on a contract with young player or draft pick attached
Jose deal could happen as the season progresses when a good team notices a void at PG
Expirings will expire to create cap space in an uncertain cap time
3 picks, needed to rebuild team in a cap friendly way
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15Mil TPE will expire or take on a contract with young player or draft pick attached
Jose deal could happen as the season progresses when a good team notices a void at PG
Expirings will expire to create cap space in an uncertain cap time
3 picks, needed to rebuild team in a cap friendly way
1 or 2 of those picks will be dealt (Miami's #30, 2nd rounder?), Jose will be dealt this month imo. In your scenario we won't make another move unless we sign someone to a minimum. Which I very highly doubt will be the case.
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Old 08-07-2010, 03:35 PM   #16 (permalink)
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i feel the same way, the thought of the roster in the current state going into the regular season scares the fuck out of me lol but i can see BC making another move as he needs to have a good season to get a new contract and it seems as if he's committed to winning in Toronto, it's a damn shame the trade and then the Barnes signing didn't go through that would've been huge for this team but hopefully BC can make something happen with similar significance on this sorry roster.
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Old 08-07-2010, 04:04 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Jeff...

You can trade Jack and throw in a expiring and get the same if not better return ...

because...

like you said "he's younger and has played better the last 2 seasons then Jose has" and whatever team takes him will be able to shed salary via expiring Evans/banks contracts...
True, an expiring or a pick.
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Old 08-07-2010, 05:23 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I don't see anything happening. We are gonna go in witht his and there might be a move at the trade dealine
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Old 08-07-2010, 05:31 PM   #19 (permalink)
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We need that reliable defense center who can score in the post time to time.
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Old 08-07-2010, 06:53 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Why do people want a "major" trade anyways? Even if we made a "major trade" for LeBron, we still wouldn't be a contender, so who cares if we trade for a 2nd tier player?

I hope BC just trades for picks/youth, and doesn't try and bring in Maggette's/Howard's etc.
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