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Old 11-08-2009, 12:15 AM   #21 (permalink)
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The other issue was today nobody played with effort, most of them looked like a bunch of lazy morons. I think we are better off with only playing jose or jack, not both(its definitely not working). I want reggie evans to get healthy, and fast. Calderon is too shit on D and it is costing us big time. You cant always blame the teams D on Triano because the players and the Gm are at fault. The GM signed these players, and the players either suck or dont play with effort.
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Old 11-08-2009, 12:16 AM   #22 (permalink)
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yeah I know but... oh well. It's the INTENTION that matters . I was not using the word in the clinical sense. This is a Raptors forum so you have to take into consideration the context. If I was on some psychology forum then that would be bad.
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Old 11-08-2009, 12:20 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Solution. Just put out a warning on the word and if anyone uses it gets a warning followed by a ban.
i'm not interested in banning anyone for a word.

and babyface, the intention is not what matters, the social impact of a word being used as degrading does. if i went around here calling people kikes and faggots, and then said i don't mean it to be degrading, would that be ok?

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Old 11-08-2009, 12:22 AM   #24 (permalink)
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i'm not interested in banning anyone for a word.

and babyface, the intention is not what matters, the social impact of a word being used as degrading does. if i went around here calling people kikes and faggots, and then said i don't mean it to be degrading, would that be ok?

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it's subjective. Not everyone will care about it the same way
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Old 11-08-2009, 12:23 AM   #25 (permalink)
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The other issue was today nobody played with effort, most of them looked like a bunch of lazy morons. I think we are better off with only playing jose or jack, not both(its definitely not working). I want reggie evans to get healthy, and fast. Calderon is too shit on D and it is costing us big time. You cant always blame the teams D on Triano because the players and the Gm are at fault. The GM signed these players, and the players either suck or dont play with effort.

This not only for yourself but have you guys actually watched 76er games. Do you guys realize what type of game Reggie plays?

Reggie won't be the savour of this team. He'll throw down Rasho and Amir from the depth chart and prob throw down a few more boards and be a little tougher.

I guess just like Oakley people will overvalue Reggie
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Old 11-08-2009, 12:34 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Jose and Jack looked pretty good last night...didnt' hear any complaints then.
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Old 11-08-2009, 12:42 AM   #27 (permalink)
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the point is, if the combo isn't working then Triano needs to be flexible and adjust to the conditions on the court.
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Old 11-08-2009, 12:54 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Well you wanna bench the rookie. It was Dero that was getting owned in the beginning of the game by Howard that set the tempo of the game.

Also Dirk was scoring at will vs. Bargs and Bosh who else you gonna get to guard Dirk?
Howard attacked the rook - understandable to anyone but Leo, who kept asking how come Howard was relied on so heavily on offence to begin the game, despite just being back.

Dirk's shooting today was phenomenal. For the most of the first half, he made those shots with 7-footer in his face - made no difference.
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Old 11-08-2009, 12:57 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Howard attacked the rook - understandable to anyone but Leo, who kept asking how come Howard was relied on so heavily on offence to begin the game, despite just being back.

Dirk's shooting today was phenomenal. For the most of the first half, he made those shots with 7-footer in his face - made no difference.
Ya but 62+ % FG is just not acceptable. It was a back to back but at the same time New Orleans isn't far from Dallas and the starters didn't play a quarter.

I agree some possesions Raps guarded Dirk well but he was just torching it. Lastly, they godda get better on D I know they not good but they just godda get with it if they wanna make the playoffs
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:10 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I don't blame Triano (or the coaching staff) for this loss at all.

1) We shot the ball terribly.

2) We just didn't try defensively.

The Mavs made it look easy and the Raps made it look next to impossible lol.

Great game again from Chris who continues to bring it even his team doesn't.. and not a bad 2nd half from Bargs who got it going late.

Not a fan of Hedo's play today... not at all.
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Old 11-08-2009, 02:02 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Jose and Jack looked pretty good last night...didnt' hear any complaints then.
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Old 11-08-2009, 02:08 AM   #32 (permalink)
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This is frustrating, Mavs scored 129 points on us and Jay is talking how good this team was playing defence in practices. His camp was all about defence. Is this guy retarded or what. His D philosophy sucks big time. I am so pissed. Your thoughts...
wtf...i didnt see jay playing horrid d. i saw Bosh and jack do that.
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Old 11-08-2009, 02:33 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I agree with Trane on how the words retarded or stupid should not be used so casually, especially the word retarded.
I see where you're getting to by starting this thread, letting the Mavs, Magic, and Grizz drop triple-figures on you with a beautiful shooting percentage is inexucusable. I understand we have 9 new faces and it takes time to implement a defensive strategy, but that whole excuse won't last too much longer...To be quite honest with you guys, this years Raptors (from what i've seen SO FAR) look a lot like the good ol' 'live and die by the jumper' raps of 08
On another note, I just love how Chris is being aggresive and getting to the line every night, I really think this is going to be his season (25ppg-11rpg).
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Howard attacked the rook - understandable to anyone but Leo, who kept asking how come Howard was relied on so heavily on offence to begin the game, despite just being back.

Dirk's shooting today was phenomenal. For the most of the first half, he made those shots with 7-footer in his face - made no difference.
Haha, you picked up on Leo's comments, too, eh? I found it hillarious how Devlin disagreed with him, but still tried to come up with another explanation: Devlin said something about coach Carlisle wanting to get Howard involved early so that he stays disciplined right from the start. So far this season, DD has done a pretty good job, and I've defended him against some unfair criticism, but Howard demonstrated that DD is going to have a tough time against All-Star calibre wings.
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Old 11-08-2009, 03:22 AM   #35 (permalink)
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We've never been a defensively solid team.
We're coming off of a back-to-back.
We were facing a relatively dangerous opponent.

Call me crazy here, but it was in the cards.
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Old 11-08-2009, 03:28 AM   #36 (permalink)
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trane is actually correct that the word retarded should not be used so casually. But it's become the social norm and I assume people understand what I mean and not misinterpret it for the clinical use.
A social norm in what circles?
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Old 11-08-2009, 05:14 AM   #38 (permalink)
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what really pissed me off was that our bench was supposed to do better against a depthless mavs at the time so that was bad... and yeah he shouldve put on the bosh, amir, jarret, wright, bellineli unit he used in the New orleans game in the 3rd quarter
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Old 11-08-2009, 09:06 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Isnt that why we have a deep bench? If something isnt working, try something else. If Jose cant stop the PG (he contained CP3 ironically enough) then let Turk or JJ handle the ball. We are 3-4 deep in ball handlers.

Just the same, I will not pretend to know more than JT and I have faith he is working on something rather than just effing up.

PS. Dirk and J_Terry couldnt miss last night. That didnt help.
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