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Old 04-06-2011, 04:47 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Ok how about Kwame Brown?

Kwame's team gives up 1.8 more points when he is on the floor, and they score 4.1 less. So overall, Andrea has a bit better impact as Kwame, even with all of his scoring.
first of all, i think that stat is bullshit. it would only make sense if teams had similar amount of talent as one another. when a guy like Bargs is on like the third shittiest team and a guy like kwame who is on a team fighting for playoffs and has more talent surrounding him, obviously it makes Bargs chances at being effective less likely.

for instance, if kwama makes a mistake, it is less likely to be exposed and result in points. he has more talent and better defense on his team to compensate for his wrongdoings. put barg on the lakers, that little stat u mentioned i guarantee u would be alot better than it is atm, the raps defense as a whole is one of the worst in the league...the whole starting lineup is essentially defensively ineffective...

and another reason why the stat is bogus: because it suggests barg is barely better than kwame....lets be serious...i know u dont like barg, but you must know the idea of that suggestion is ludacris..

first dirk, now kwame..... talk about going from one extreme to the other LX...lol

p.s: lol @ panda's 'owned' comment! hes taking his anger out b/c i disagreeing with him in the other thread...having forbid somebody disagrees with his overexageratted hate for barg
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Old 04-06-2011, 04:47 PM   #22 (permalink)
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anybody watch the bulls broadcast,

they themselves were saying the raps look much better with Bargnani out on the floor, the offense runs better, players get better shots,

all I know is when I watch the games without Bargs we don't look that good, when he is playing the game is much more watchable and interesting, considering how difficult it is watching this team play basketball,
Much more watchable and interesting? Chucking every possession, playing no defense and not rebounding is watchable and interesting?
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Old 04-06-2011, 04:56 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Much more watchable and interesting? Chucking every possession, playing no defense and not rebounding is watchable and interesting?
You have to understand, you're dealing with a Bargnani Fan boy. They have selective memory. Logic is non-existent.
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You have to understand, you're dealing with a Bargnani Fan boy. They have selective memory. Logic is non-existent.
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Old 04-06-2011, 06:14 PM   #25 (permalink)
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first of all, i think that stat is bullshit. it would only make sense if teams had similar amount of talent as one another. when a guy like Bargs is on like the third shittiest team and a guy like kwame who is on a team fighting for playoffs and has more talent surrounding him, obviously it makes Bargs chances at being effective less likely.

for instance, if kwama makes a mistake, it is less likely to be exposed and result in points. he has more talent and better defense on his team to compensate for his wrongdoings. put barg on the lakers, that little stat u mentioned i guarantee u would be alot better than it is atm, the raps defense as a whole is one of the worst in the league...the whole starting lineup is essentially defensively ineffective...

and another reason why the stat is bogus: because it suggests barg is barely better than kwame....lets be serious...i know u dont like barg, but you must know the idea of that suggestion is ludacris..

first dirk, now kwame..... talk about going from one extreme to the other LX...lol

p.s: lol @ panda's 'owned' comment! hes taking his anger out b/c i disagreeing with him in the other thread...having forbid somebody disagrees with his overexageratted hate for barg
you asked for some samples from other players - give me someone else.

The stat isn't complete bullshit. I agree that there are a lot of variables. But when a team clearly defends better, shitty or not, when one player sits on the bench, then that one player might be a big part of the what makes the team shitty. That's not scapegoating - that's just looking at what happens.
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