How many franchise players in NBA
Old 12-08-2008, 10:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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It seems to me that there are more people here who think that Bosh is not a franchise player.

I personally think Bosh is for the most part a franchise player.

So, for those who don't agree. Please explain what a franchise player is for you, and list all of the franchise players in the NBA.
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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lets see 30 teams.......

Id say 30.
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I say a franchise player is a player that thinks highly of the city they play for and represents tem well. He is almost always the player that is the one relied on hitting the big shots and makes them. He is the player that leads the team in points. He is definatly a player that if you are missing him on your team you are almost guarenteed to lose. Players the come to mid are LBJ and Wade
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lets see 30 teams.......

Id say 30.
Names, please.
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I say a franchise player is a player that thinks highly of the city they play for and represents tem well. He is almost always the player that is the one relied on hitting the big shots and makes them. He is the player that leads the team in points. He is definatly a player that if you are missing him on your team you are almost guarenteed to lose. Players the come to mid are LBJ and Wade
And Bosh doesn't make the cut?
I'm not insinuating Bosh is a franchise player, nor am I saying he is not. But by your definition of MVP, our team would be lucky to win a game without him at this point.
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I am not saying that he isn't our franchise but those names popped in my head at the time so I wrote them down, but definatly Bosh is on that list too
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Names, please.
Boston-KG
Phily- Iggy yes he is the franchise over Brand
NYK-David Lee or maybe Duhon
Raps- CB4
NJN- Harris
Bulls- Rose
Cavs- LBJ
Pistons- Sheed or Rip
Pacers- Granger
Bucks- Redd
Hawks- JJ
Bobcats- Richardson
Heat- Wade
Magic- D12
Wizards- Jamison
Mavs- Dirk
Rockets- Yao
memphis- Gay
Hornets- CP3
Spurs- Duncan
Denver- Billups
Minny- Al Jefferson
Portland- Roy
Thunder- Durant
Jazz- Williams
Warriors- Jackson
Clips- Davis
Lakers- Kobe
Suns- Nash or Amare
Kings- Udrih or Salmons

These are the people I think are the franchices of all the teams
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I'd really like to know what the people who don't think Bosh is a franchise player think about this list...
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:45 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I'd really like to know what the people who don't think Bosh is a franchise player think about this list...
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Atlantic
Boston-Pierce
Jersey-Carter(soon to be Harris)
New York-Dont really know(Soon to be Lebron)
Philly-Brand
TO-Bosh

Central
Chicago-Rose/Gordon wants it though
Cleveland-Lebron
Detroilt-Rip
Indiana-Granger
Bucks-Redd

Southeast
Atlanta-JJ
Charlotte-Richardson
Miami-Wade
Orlando-Howard
Washington-Arenas

Southwest
Dallas-Dirk
Houston-Yao
Memphis-Gay(soon to be Mayo)
NO-Paul
SanAntonio-Duncan

Northwest
Minnesota-Jefferson
Denver-Melo
Portland-Roy
Oklahoma-Durant
Utah-Williams

Pacific
LAC-BDiddy
LAL-Koby
GS-Jackson
Phoenix-Nash(Amare taking it though)
Sacramento-Martin

Best I could some up with I am tired and soon going to bed.......
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I'd really like to know what the people who don't think Bosh is a franchise player think about this list...
He is a frachise player, doesnt meen there isnt alot of room for improvement.

I have Gay as a franchise player.........
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He is a frachise player, doesnt meen there isnt alot of room for improvement.

I have Gay as a franchise player.........
Exactly the point of this thread... everyone is saying that Bosh is not a franchise player... implying that if he can't bring it every night, then he lets the team down. What have we heard... lebron, kg, wade... like those were the typical franchise player in the league.

It's bullshit talk, and needs to stop.
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Exactly the point of this thread... everyone is saying that Bosh is not a franchise player... implying that if he can't bring it every night, then he lets the team down. What have we heard... lebron, kg, wade... like those were the typical franchise player in the league.

It's bullshit talk, and needs to stop.
True enough, Bosh isnt MVP caliber, ad he may not be number 1 otin on a championshi team, but right now he is our franchise player.


My question is though, If by some miricle we were to get JJ or Wade in 2010 and keep Bosh, Who is the franchise player then?
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Good thread macs.

Personally, I have no opinion as to whether Bosh is a franchise player or not. He is a franchise player, but he is NOT the player that could take us all the way to the 'ship. He's the Robin, we need a Batman to win the championship. Unfortunately, you can count the number of Batman's in this league on one hand, there are plenty of Robins though.
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So, the whole point of this thread is that the best scorer on any team, no matter how bad, is a franchise player?

The term franchise player is pretty simple if you think about.... it's a player you can build your franchise around longterm, with a very realistic goal of winning a championship. Alot of the players mentioned above are the best players on their team, but their teams would jump to try and get a better go to guy, you see a true franchise player is basically untradeable, and you never have to worry about getting a better number 1, not every team has one, they are rare, thats why everyone wants one. ATM Bosh IS NOT a franchise player, he seems to be on his way.
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Bosh can't win in this league as a #1 option.

Does that mean he's not a franchise player? I guess so.
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Boston-KG
Phily- Iggy yes he is the franchise over Brand
NYK-David Lee or maybe Duhon
Raps- CB4
NJN- Harris
Bulls- Rose
Cavs- LBJ
Pistons- Sheed or Rip
Pacers- Granger
Bucks- Redd
Hawks- JJ
Bobcats- Richardson
Heat- Wade
Magic- D12
Wizards- Jamison
Mavs- Dirk
Rockets- Yao
memphis- Gay
Hornets- CP3
Spurs- Duncan
Denver- Billups
Minny- Al Jefferson
Portland- Roy
Thunder- Durant
Jazz- Williams
Warriors- Jackson
Clips- Davis
Lakers- Kobe
Suns- Nash or Amare
Kings- Udrih or Salmons

These are the people I think are the franchices of all the teams
Not 100% what is meant by "franchise player" but if it means the best player on the team, then yes Udrih/Salmons are franchise players.
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Bosh can't win in this league as a #1 option.

Does that mean he's not a franchise player? I guess so.
why can't he? duncan is the #1 option on the spurs, but parker and manu take just as many shots. Bosh alone as a presence makes him capable of being a legit 1st option worthy of a championship. his lack of defense and loser teammates will always prevent that from happening.

btw

you'll never see duncan get the ball at the end of the game. he's a shitty ft shooter for beginners, and you don't go big down the wire anyways...
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So, the whole point of this thread is that the best scorer on any team, no matter how bad, is a franchise player?

The term franchise player is pretty simple if you think about.... it's a player you can build your franchise around longterm, with a very realistic goal of winning a championship. Alot of the players mentioned above are the best players on their team, but their teams would jump to try and get a better go to guy, you see a true franchise player is basically untradeable, and you never have to worry about getting a better number 1, not every team has one, they are rare, thats why everyone wants one. ATM Bosh IS NOT a franchise player, he seems to be on his way.
Lol, if you go by this logic, there is only 1 franchise player in the NBA. By your logic everybody except the best player in the NBA is tradeable.
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So, the whole point of this thread is that the best scorer on any team, no matter how bad, is a franchise player?

The term franchise player is pretty simple if you think about.... it's a player you can build your franchise around longterm, with a very realistic goal of winning a championship. Alot of the players mentioned above are the best players on their team, but their teams would jump to try and get a better go to guy, you see a true franchise player is basically untradeable, and you never have to worry about getting a better number 1, not every team has one, they are rare, thats why everyone wants one. ATM Bosh IS NOT a franchise player, he seems to be on his way.
Okay first off isn't BC trying to build around Bosh, but your statement says you only build around franchise players. And isn't BC's goal to build around Bosh to get a Championship? And the untradeable part doesn't that only apply to Kobe?
Your whole statement is an oxymoron because you said you franchise players are the ones you build around. So that means Kevin Durant is a franchise player (Just using him as an example) but due to the untradeable part Kevin Durant is tradeable he isn't Kobe after all?
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