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Old 09-14-2012, 08:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The argument against Toronto making the playoffs can be summarized by listing Miami, Indiana, Boston, Chicago, Brooklyn, New York, Atlanta, and Philadelphia. Whose spot in the playoffs are the Raptors going to take? There is a strong argument that the East has gotten better, but Toronto, Milwaukee, Washington and Cleveland have also improved and the Bobcats will not match last year’s record for futility. Just like in past years, a .500 record should be sufficient to earn an Eastern Conference team a playoff berth.

While it is not easy to determine which teams in the East will live up to their preseason expectations, Toronto has done enough to be a 41-win team or better and that record should take the eighth and final playoff spot.
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Atlanta is definitely gonna fall, as they lost their Ace player and got pretty much nothing in return. Bulls will likely fall as Rose will miss so many games next year. Also, I think we are about even against Celtics, as their two starting forwards got older.

Though anything is possible in NBA, I have a high hope on Raps marking up to 5th spot without huge surprise
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Also, I think we are about even against Celtics, as their two starting forwards got older.

Though anything is possible in NBA, I have a high hope on Raps marking up to 5th spot without huge surprise
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:34 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Raps can end up anywhere from 5th to 10th and it wouldn't surprise me. East is too damn equal
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no way we can be as high as 5th! not a chance! look at our division, never mind the conference.

and we are nowhere near matching the celtics.

we need to concentrate on oursleves next season, we will improve, we will be good to watch, we will improve our record, then we'll just see where we land.
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Raps can end up anywhere from 5th to 10th and it wouldn't surprise me. East is too damn equal
I agree with this post 100 percent. a lo hinges on how well our new players can gel, and how fast, and how caseys system can be implemented better through the likes of lowry, fields, and at a later date, val. if all goes to plan, 5th isnt so far fetched. but if everything goes horribly wrong, ala miami in that terrible terrible dropoff season, we might end up losing a top pick to houston
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Old 09-14-2012, 12:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Atlanta is definitely gonna fall, as they lost their Ace player and got pretty much nothing in return. Bulls will likely fall as Rose will miss so many games next year. Also, I think we are about even against Celtics, as their two starting forwards got older.

Though anything is possible in NBA, I have a high hope on Raps marking up to 5th spot without huge surprise
Chicago may be without Rose but they have an excellent system in place and will make the playoffs. Great head coach.

5th?????? For the raps to get 5th everyone on the team would have to play to the best of their abilities, live up to their potential, no injuries, consistent play and many other teams would have to have many injuries, not be consistent and underperform.

I think raps will end up 8th - 11th.
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Old 09-14-2012, 12:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I just want the damn season to start so we can see how this team gels before making my prediction. Just a month and a half to go.
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
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we are nowhere near the celtics. And i highly doubt we make 5th seed. But the playoffs are an achievable goal especially if we're aiming at being a top 8 defensive team. I think anything from 7-11 is wide open. But i really just wish the season would start already.
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:23 PM   #10 (permalink)
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it's possible to get to 5th, in fact even 2nd is possible, just extremely unlikely.
For example, if Lowry and Bargnani play at an all star level, demar finally puts it together and JV can play like horford did in his 1st year, we could compete for the #2 spot, there is no team in the east that is all that strong. It's possible that 50-52 wins could get you a #2 seed this year, with a ton of teams in the 42-52 range.

I think being #2 - #5 in the east is just as likely at finishing in the bottom 3 in the league.
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Anything is possible this season with teams getting older & changes. Also consider injuries. Some teams will get the injury bug.

I think if Toronto stays healthy we make the 7th or 8th spot.
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it's possible to get to 5th, in fact even 2nd is possible, just extremely unlikely.
For example, if Lowry and Bargnani play at an all star level, demar finally puts it together and JV can play like horford did in his 1st year, we could compete for the #2 spot, there is no team in the east that is all that strong. It's possible that 50-52 wins could get you a #2 seed this year, with a ton of teams in the 42-52 range.

I think being #2 - #5 in the east is just as likely at finishing in the bottom 3 in the league.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
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it's possible to get to 5th, in fact even 2nd is possible, just extremely unlikely.
For example, if Lowry and Bargnani play at an all star level, demar finally puts it together and JV can play like horford did in his 1st year, we could compete for the #2 spot, there is no team in the east that is all that strong. It's possible that 50-52 wins could get you a #2 seed this year, with a ton of teams in the 42-52 range.

I think being #2 - #5 in the east is just as likely at finishing in the bottom 3 in the league.
lots of ifs.
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Chicago may be without Rose but they have an excellent system in place and will make the playoffs. Great head coach.

5th?????? For the raps to get 5th everyone on the team would have to play to the best of their abilities, live up to their potential, no injuries, consistent play and many other teams would have to have many injuries, not be consistent and underperform.

I think raps will end up 8th - 11th.
I agree they have great coach, but I do not agree with "excellent system" when the biggest key player is out for injury. I highly doubt if Kirk will get back in his shape from 4-5 years ago (when he used to be above avg PG).

Look at their roster WITHOUT Rose:

Kirk-Rip-Deng-Boozer-Noah, backed up by M.Teague-Bellinelli-Radman-Gibson-Nazr..

With healthy Rose, we can't compete against them for sure, but without Rose, we are definitely better team than Bulls regardless of who is coaching Bulls.. (ofc, if our head coach was Triano, I can't say this...)

Also, I still can't imagine the OLD,OLD,(and really OLD) Celtics and Ace-less Hawks having ranked ahead of us in Regular season.

Let Miami-Indiana-Phillis-Nets score the top 4, but we can compete for 5th seed.
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I agree they have great coach, but I do not agree with "excellent system" when the biggest key player is out for injury. I highly doubt if Kirk will get back in his shape from 4-5 years ago (when he used to be above avg PG).

Look at their roster WITHOUT Rose:

Kirk-Rip-Deng-Boozer-Noah, backed up by M.Teague-Bellinelli-Radman-Gibson-Nazr..

With healthy Rose, we can't compete against them for sure, but without Rose, we are definitely better team than Bulls regardless of who is coaching Bulls.. (ofc, if our head coach was Triano, I can't say this...)

Also, I still can't imagine the OLD,OLD,(and really OLD) Celtics and Ace-less Hawks having ranked ahead of us in Regular season.

Let Miami-Indiana-Phillis-Nets score the top 4, but we can compete for 5th seed.
They did just fine playing without Rose in the regular season.

Miami and Indy are probably the only locks. They are above everybody else. I think the Nets will make the playoffs just based on the sheer amount of talent they have. Despite the really old Celtics, they know how to play still and have loads of chemistry and experience. Also, getting Terry, Sullinger, and C. Lee were some solid moves. Atlanta is a wildcard. It all depends on when + what they get for JSmoove.
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Let Miami-Indiana-Phillis-Nets score the top 4, but we can compete for 5th seed.
the celtics a team that was one game away from the NBA finals and only got better this year with rookie additions plus Terry and Lee arent in your top 5? you say theyre old and thats for sure but they were old last season and had an excellent second half of the season and playoff run they are a top 3 team in the east.

the knicks are also a better team than us and the nets and philly. They have a good coach that they played really well with late in the season. People keep bringing up knicks chemistry but their core group have been together and have had more time to gel than us or philly or nj and felton a big new addition played excellently with amare before.

Thats the top 6... leaving 7th and 8th seed open.
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They did just fine playing without Rose in the regular season.

Miami and Indy are probably the only locks. They are above everybody else. I think the Nets will make the playoffs just based on the sheer amount of talent they have. Despite the really old Celtics, they know how to play still and have loads of chemistry and experience. Also, getting Terry, Sullinger, and C. Lee were some solid moves. Atlanta is a wildcard. It all depends on when + what they get for JSmoove.
Disagree with that, I would say Miami, Boston, Indy, are locks for the top 3 in that order, then Brooklyn, NY, Philly and Chicago (unless Rose comes back sooner however I think the top 3 will be too far ahead by then). These 4 can interchange and fight it out for spots 4-7, leaving the 8th spot. I actually believe the article when they have Atlanta in there as well. Disregarding Atlanta is a mistake IMHO, as Harris/Williams/Smith/Horford/ZaZa is a pretty decent starting 5 - only weakness I can see is their bench where I think the Raps can capitalize. If anything that's the Raps' strength (especially if JC stays for the year) and if we get into the playoffs it will be because of the bench imo. 8th spot is realistic if everything goes right and if injuries hit the other teams, (like Bynum - which would kill that teams' hopes) the Raps could squeak in at 7th.

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I agree that much like the Blue Jays season before it began, people are looking at the Raptors as really a toss-up. If a lot of things go our way I agree it's not unfathomable to get the 5th seed. But it's just as likely that we end up as basement dwellers right now. There are a lot of very important ifs that haven't been close to being worked out yet. Of the current teams I would expect to see in the playoff picture (Miami, Indiana, Boston, New York, Brooklyn, Atlanta, Philadelphia and Chicago), we could beat the last three with Rose being out almost all season, Atlanta having a very lacklustre bench and Philly having an overall talent level comparable to ours.
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I agree they have great coach, but I do not agree with "excellent system" when the biggest key player is out for injury. I highly doubt if Kirk will get back in his shape from 4-5 years ago (when he used to be above avg PG).

Look at their roster WITHOUT Rose:

Kirk-Rip-Deng-Boozer-Noah, backed up by M.Teague-Bellinelli-Radman-Gibson-Nazr..

With healthy Rose, we can't compete against them for sure, but without Rose, we are definitely better team than Bulls regardless of who is coaching Bulls.. (ofc, if our head coach was Triano, I can't say this...)

Also, I still can't imagine the OLD,OLD,(and really OLD) Celtics and Ace-less Hawks having ranked ahead of us in Regular season.

Let Miami-Indiana-Phillis-Nets score the top 4, but we can compete for 5th seed.
the celtics have 2 vets, still playing at a high level, and the seemingly ageless terry playing 6th man mins, after that where's the old!?

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Again I don;t think Brooklyn or the Knicks are nearly as good as anyone thinks. and Atlanta is cooked.
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