Hoopsworld: Belinelli - Name to Remember in the East
Old 09-10-2009, 11:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Marco Belinelli never really hit his stride in Golden State, but things may be different in Toronto. He did shoot nearly 40% from beyond the arc last year, which is sure to fit nicely with the Raptors.

Playing alongside countryman Andrea Bargnani won't hurt, but the best thing about Belinelli's arrival in Toronto is the opportunity to slow down. Golden State's 101 possessions per 48 minutes is pretty fast. Toronto ranked 14th in the NBA last year in pace and Belinelli might become more efficient offensively if he had more looks in the half-court.
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glad to read some good thoughts about this team! i am looking forward to the new look offense...
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah look out. If this kid gets his confidence in the NBA, Colangelo will be right about him being a six man of the year. Offensively he can pretty well do it all, except jump. Defensively he gets after it every possesion and should be a very good perimeter defender against the trey. He needs to improve his agility defensively but he's tough and in your face every chance he gets. He will make Don Nelson look extremely bad this year for not utilizing him, you can book it.
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I'm hoping Marco and Amir have breakout years this season. Both have big potential.
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i hope beli isn't carlos arroyo
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i hope beli isn't carlos arroyo
I'm guessing you haven't seen Belinelli play much?
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:37 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i'll be honest, i don't watch too many golden state games. it must have been disappointing for you to watch every golden state game only to find out that beli was DNP BENCHED.
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i'll be honest, i don't watch too many golden state games. it must have been disappointing for you to watch every golden state game only to find out that beli was DNP BENCHED.
Yeah, obviously you don't know much about Belinelli. He averaged 21MPG and started 16games and was one of their better players while he did start. Last season which was only his second, he wasn't a DNP much if at all. Although Don Nelson is certainly known for not playing his young players no matter how much promise they show.

Comparing him to Arroyo shows where you're coming from.
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do you have that response saved away somewhere so you can just paste it in as a reply every time someone questions beli?
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do you have that response saved away somewhere so you can just paste it in as a reply every time someone questions beli?
What response? Oh you mean what he's done....yeah i guess i do?
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I remember when watching the Raps - GS game in Oakland last year, there was a comment about Belinelli aspiring to be on the greatest players in the NBA....anybody remember that?

There's gonna be so much competition on the team this year, it's nuts.
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Yeah, obviously you don't know much about Belinelli. He averaged 21MPG and started 16games and was one of their better players while he did start.
That's debatable. I actually thought Nelson was being stupid by playing him instead of Anthony Morrow. That guy has a beautiful stroke and he knows how to play. Belinelli is capable of shooting but he tried to do too much and turned the ball over all the damn time. Didn't play much D, either.

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Don Nelson is certainly known for not playing his young players no matter how much promise they show.
Yeah, that's true. But he does give minutes to certain players. I thought last year the victims of Nelson's erratic ways were mainly Anthony Randolph and Morrow. Belinelli got his minutes shaken around a bit, but I think he saw more time than he deserved. Same with Rob Kurz.
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i'll be honest, i don't watch too many golden state games. it must have been disappointing for you to watch every golden state game only to find out that beli was DNP BENCHED.
Don Nelson's rotations are always screwed up. He hates playing rookies; he also benched Brandan Wright consistently for the last two seasons, and Anthony Randolph for the first half of last season, before he started playing so well that Nelly couldn't possibly ignore him.

The Warriors have only had one true center for the last five years or so - Andris Beidrins, and a damn fine one too, and for the past 5 years his minutes per game numbers are (from most to least recent): 30, 27.3, 29, 14.7, 12.8 . And yet Nelson certainly isn't about saving his players' legs for the playoffs: Stephen Jackson averaged 39.6 minutes per game for the year, and averaged a staggering 41.1 minutes in November and 43.9 minutes per game in February!!!

Don Nelson is an excellent coach, but he is too obsessed with playing vets and recently he has become consumed with that bullshit small-ball that won his team an opening round against a 1st seeded Dallas team, but can't win against playoff teams that aren't soft.

I just hope to god that Stephen Curry can find minutes on G-State next year. My fear is that Speedy Claxton, Stephen Jackson, Kalenna Azubiuke and Corey Magette steal all the minutes at the 2 and 3 spots, and Monta plays PG full time, and Curry doesn't get time to show his stuff at all. That would be tragic, but I can see it happening.

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I just hope to god that Stephen Curry can find minutes on G-State next year. My fear is that Speedy Claxton, Kalenna Azubiuke and Corey Magette steal all the minutes at the 2 and 3 spots, and Monta plays PG full time, and Curry doesn't get time to show his stuff at all. That would be tragic.
Tragic yes, surprising no?
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aside from how he's dealt with the rookies in golden state, is there any previous examples? i keep hearing about wright and beli like they've proven that they should have been every day rotational players. it doesn't work for me. he's shown confidence in players like ellis, azubiuke, watson, josh howard, quis daniels....
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aside from how he's dealt with the rookies in golden state, is there any previous examples? i keep hearing about wright and beli like they've proven that they should have been every day rotational players. it doesn't work for me. he's shown confidence in players like ellis, azubiuke, watson, josh howard, quis daniels....
Ellis was pissed about his lack of playing time last season when he returned and for the rest of the season and has had issues in the past as well, Randolph (probably their best young player) has struggled to get consistant minutes, add to that Wrigh, Belinelli and there's a patern there that is well known around the league.
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It took him a while to show confidence in Ellis. I just think he's pretty much cooked. I could not believe his general disinterest when I saw them play at the ACC last season. He does not look like the coach he once was.

Still - it bugs me that Beli is supposed to helped out by playing alongside his countryman. As long as stupid stuff like that gets said, then I need to see results before getting excited.
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at what point does a player become accountable for not doing their job out on the court?
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It took him a while to show confidence in Ellis. I just think he's pretty much cooked. I could not believe his general disinterest when I saw them play at the ACC last season. He does not look like the coach he once was.

Still - it bugs me that Beli is supposed to helped out by playing alongside his countryman. As long as stupid stuff like that gets said, then I need to see results before getting excited.
Fair enough. But i've seen enough of him and read enough to know that he's a good player and given stable minutes will do well here. It's funny that all he gets attention for, for the most part is his shooting and scoring ability, and really what excites me about him aside from that is his court vision and good passing skills. Can't wait to see if he and Jack can get some good chemistry going together. Can't wait for this season.
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at what point does a player become accountable for not doing their job out on the court?
Probably after 2-3 seasons if given the chances and playing time to consistently improve. Especially if a player comes into the league at an earlier age (20-21). But what does that have to do with this thread?
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