Hoopsworld article: Who Lands Bosh?
Old 06-03-2010, 08:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OK article, talks about possible S/T options for Toronto. Note: Raptors were excluded from this list of teams landing Bosh.

Link: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=16387
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Old 06-03-2010, 08:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Aaron Brooks?


Get on that shit if thats possible.
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The only two options I care for at all are S&T to either Houston or Chicago, but preferably Houston.
The only problem with Chi is that we would regret creating a dynasty in our own conferece. Regardless, these 2 teams give us the best return.
If we can get Brooks,Scola,#14 in return for Bosh we could potentially become a much better team. Acquiring Brooks and scola while adding another pick would be excellent.
If I was BC I would use #13 on Avery Bradley and use the rocket's pick to trade down and get Ebanks.
We could then trade Jose in return for a sg or combo guard to get some scoring off the bench.
I would then do the rumoured Hedo for Diaw trade to shore up the front line.
We could have this lineup going into the season:

Brooks/Jack
Weems/Bradley
Derozan/Devin Ebanks/Diaw
Scola/Diaw/Evans
Bargnani/Amir

With chemistry, I have no doubt that this could be a playoff team. A potent offensive mix between Brooks/Scola/Bargs, althleticism with DD/Weems/Amir, potential lockdown D with Bradley and Ebanks.
Using Jose to acquire some scoring help off the bench would greatly lessen the load on Brooks and Bargs, which would greatly improve our offensive capabilities. Someone in the mold of Jamal Crawford/Eddie House/Marcus Thorton/Jeff Teague would be perfect.
I could see this team doing very, very well next season.
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If we land Brooks we aren't getting Scola, although Scola and Bosh are kinda redundant, especially once Yao is back.

Brooks, Ariza, #14 would be interesting. Alot of possibilities in reguards to Houston. By far the best option for the Raptors imo.

Any two of Brooks, Lowry, Scola, Ariza, Battier + pick....secondary possibilities of Hill or Martin.
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If we could get Scola, Brooks and a pick, and turn Bargnani and Jose into something, then I'll be an optimist again.
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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If we could get Scola, Brooks and a pick, and turn Bargnani and Jose into something, then I'll be an optimist again.
Bargnani is going nowhere. Jose + expirings and maybe one of our picks, if we get #14 from Houston could get us something decent. And who knows what we could get for Hedo if he's also dealt with Jose or in a seperate move.
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If we land Brooks we aren't getting Scola, although Scola and Bosh are kinda redundant, especially once Yao is back.

Brooks, Ariza, #14 would be interesting. Alot of possibilities in reguards to Houston. By far the best option for the Raptors imo.

Any two of Brooks, Lowry, Scola, Ariza, Battier + pick....secondary possibilities of Hill or Martin.
Exactly... If the article is correct, and they are willing to move Brooks for an all star, then I would do this rather than keeping Bosh.
I would have included Battier, but I just dont see them giving up that much talent for Bosh, they do want to win a championship after all.
Theres no way I deal with Houston if they dont send over Brooks, getting him opens up a lot of options for us.
If we can get him we finally have a legit pg. He is aggresive, a slasher, good passer, and he can light it up.
Acquiring him lets us explore the option of moving Jose and Hedo without worrying about our play-making capabilities.
Im really loving this trade idea, it could be very lucrative for us.
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That team is pretty garbage if you ask me. With a coach like Rick Adelman, yes that team would compete, but with Jay Triano as a young coach - not bad coach - this team is lottery-bound. This team is too young and lacks defensive capability. But in terms of the longterm, this would be a nice team to have, then add a lottery pick to.
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Guys guys stop drooling. You are missing the point

They spit on Toronto again assuming Bosh will never resign here.
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:36 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Guys guys stop drooling. You are missing the point

They spit on Toronto again assuming Bosh will never resign here.
Considering they're right i'm not gonna split hairs. Maybe 6 months ago, but at this point the guy is gone. I'm resigned to that fact.
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:45 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Guys guys stop drooling. You are missing the point

They spit on Toronto again assuming Bosh will never resign here.
they are right, Bosh wont ask for a S&T to Toronto
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Houston has to much salary 58 million so must match in trade $ for $.
Plus Yao can't start the season and is a huge question mark.
They would have to gut the team to get Bosh......Brooks, Scola ( resigned ), Battier and more.
Plus Bosh doesn't want to go.

Would be happy with Taj and draft picks from Chicago? As much as I would like we aren't getting Noah.

Miami could give us the most picks
Our 1st round back, there 1st round this year and 3... 2nd rounds this year including ours back. Would also take Beasley if a prearranged trade like Beasley, Turk and Beli for Arenas and 20.% of his salary paid by the Wiz
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Houston has to much salary 58 million so must match in trade $ for $.
Plus Yao can't start the season and is a huge question mark.
They would have to gut the team to get Bosh......Brooks, Scola ( resigned ), Battier and more.
Plus Bosh doesn't want to go.

Would be happy with Taj and draft picks from Chicago? As much as I would like we aren't getting Noah.

Miami could give us the most picks
Our 1st round back, there 1st round this year and 3... 2nd rounds this year including ours back. Would also take Beasley if a prearranged trade like Beasley, Turk and Beli for Arenas and 20.% of his salary paid by the Wiz
They could shed about 12-14Mil and get Bosh at max $$. Scola would have to agree to a S&T since he's a FA himself. If so he'll probably want 6-7Mil.

Scola at 7Mil + Ariza= nearly 14Mil

Therefor:

Scola (S&T)/Ariza +pick

for

Bosh

Puts them at around 64Mil
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Are you kidding?
This team could be very good defensively
Weems, Amir, and Diaw are all good defenders, and Bradley/Ebanks project to be very good as well.
Jack, Derozan, Evans are not bad at all defensively... soon, with a bigger frame, I expect Derozan to be very competent on this end of the floor. Scola is a pretty good man-to-man defender.
Brooks, aside from his height, is not bad on the defensive end.
Bargs is the only player who is bad defensively, but he played pretty good man-to-man defense this year. He is a terrible weakside and help defender, but I believe that will get better with time, and will be less obvious on a good defensive team.

I honestly have no idea what you are talking about, I question your basketball knowledge if you think this team would 'lack defensive capability'; if anything this team would excel defensively, and have a harder time on offense.
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Jack, Derozan, Evans are not bad at all defensively... soon, with a bigger frame, I expect Derozan to be very competent on this end of the floor. Scola is a pretty good man-to-man defender.
Brooks, aside from his height, is not bad on the defensive end.
Bargs is the only player who is bad defensively, but he played pretty good man-to-man defense this year.
Bargs is better defensively then Jack, Evans, Derozan.
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Martin/Lowry
Ariza/Budinger/Taylor
Battier/Budinger/Jeffries
Bosh/Hayes/Hill/Jeffries
Ming/Anderson/Hayes

I wouldly hardly say that they would have to gut their team to get bosh.
And from what I've read, Ming's health is progressing well. Even without him they have a better team than either of us had this year, especially if martin stays healthy.
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Bargs is better defensively then Jack, Evans, Derozan.
straight man to man, sure. but jack and evans are not 'calderone' bad, and both exude much more toughness and intensity than bargs, which goes a long way on defense. If Bargs was even ok as a weakside defender then I would agree, but to me that part of his game takes away from his skill as a man-to-man defender.
but i think derozan will show good progress next year, as long as he can put on some muscle mass this summer. i can tell you from personal experience, putting on muscle makes playing defense drastically easier. as long as your lateral quickness is adequate, which i believe derozan's to be, adding core strength can totally transform your defensive capabilities.

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Martin/Lowry
Ariza/Budinger/Taylor
Battier/Budinger/Jeffries
Bosh/Hayes/Hill/Jeffries
Ming/Anderson/Hayes

I wouldly hardly say that they would have to gut their team to get bosh.
And from what I've read, Ming's health is progressing well. Even without him they have a better team than either of us had this year, especially if martin stays healthy.
Martin @ PG? And why would you switch positions for Ariza & Battier?
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i guess you could switch battier and ariza, but ariza is more of a gaurd than a forward, and i definitely see battier as a 3. but martin im not too sure... if ming is healthy they can afford martin to come off the bench, but if he is not playing to start the season, i dont think they have enough offensive talent to start lowry. If ariza plays well offensively, then lowry starting would be realistic

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Team insiders say Bosh has no intention at all of resigning.

Wow, I don't know about that. If BC somehow works out to get an all-star caliber wing player and real starting pg, I don't see why not Bosh would stay. He can get offered the most money here, some load is taken off his shoulders, but still is the team leader and franchise player, and Toronto made him who he is today.

I'm not trying to bury my head in the sand or whatever, I know its a longshot he'll stay and re-sign, but I just think Bosh needs help with more motivated and talented players. Once he has that, he's set.
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