HoopsHype: Has Bosh checked out?
Old 03-31-2010, 09:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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And when you check Bosh’s stats broken down by month they back up the writer’s thoughts:

October: 29.0 ppg, 14.0 rpg,

November: 24.9 ppg, 12.0 rpg

December: 21.8 ppg, 10.2 rpg

January: 24.7 ppg, 11.7 rpg

February: 29.2 ppg, 11.4 rpg

March: 20.8 ppg, 8.8 rpg

So when Bosh’s team needs him the most – in their current struggle to hold onto the eighth, and final, playoff spot in the East, the star’s production is falling off. Bosh is also getting to the charity stripe three times less per game in March than the rest of the year - it’s this apparent lack of aggression that is leading some pundits to accuse Bosh of bailing on the Raptors.

Sports fans are more than willing to heap out love (and, subsequently, money) to an athlete as long as he appears to be working hard and giving it all he has. It’s a two way contract – the fan rewards the athlete with his time and money and the athlete rewards the fan with his blood, sweat and tears all in the name of victory and entertainment.

But if the athlete doesn’t hold up his end of the bargain, the athlete-fan relationship goes bad real quick. And there is no quicker way to accomplish this than by an athlete putting forth a sub-par effort (or appearing to do so). This is never more true than in Toronto, a hockey city to its core. Torontonians want their athletic heroes to be tough, hard workers with a no-nonsense attitude. It’s why athletes like Jerome Williams are still revered in the city – they may not have been the most talented players, but they never cheated the fans or the game.

It is also why Bosh has been so beloved in Toronto. “Tough”, “hard worker” and “no-nonsense” are all words used to describe the 26-year-old Bosh. The Dallas native has caused no scandals in his seven years with the team and has been a well-spoken, intelligent and modest star the franchise has been able to build around. That is why all this talk of Bosh tanking it seems to be a little premature. In fairness, he hasn’t been healthy much since after the All-Star break. And it was Bosh who recently lambasted his teammates for their lack of effort.

Is this really a case of a player giving up on his team, or are injuries playing a factor? Or is it just the natural ebb and flow that pretty much all player’s experience during a long season. To an outsider looking in, these would appear to be more legitimate explanations for his play of late rather than it being a case of him tanking it.

But, if you are a longtime Raptors’ fan, the thought of Bosh quitting on the team is totally believable. You see, the Raptors have a rocky history with their star players. Damon Stoudamire and Tracy McGrady both had ugly exits out of town and were both Public Enemy No. 1 in T.O. anytime they took the court in the visitor’s colors. But nothing compares to the case of Vince Carter, the best Raptor of all-time and the reason Bosh is getting all of the grief he currently is.
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But nothing compares to the case of Vince Carter, the best Raptor of all-time and the reason Bosh is getting all of the grief he currently is.
First off, i don't see Bosh getting boooooed at all, so what grief? Secondly how is Vince Carter the reason for this supposed grief?

I agree his numbers are down, the numbers are right there. And i said a couple weeks ago he checked out on this team. But the last couple games he's playing better, and let's see how he does the next 9 games. I have a feeling he's gearing it up a notch right now and will average 22-24ppg/10-11rpg in the final two weeks of the season.
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First off, i don't see Bosh getting boooooed at all, so what grief? Secondly how is Vince Carter the reason for this supposed grief?

I agree his numbers are down, the numbers are right there. And i said a couple weeks ago he checked out on this team. But the last couple games he's playing better, and let's see how he does the next 9 games. I have a feeling he's gearing it up a notch right now and will average 22-24ppg/10-11rpg in the final two weeks of the season.


He's taking grief from the fans and in the media for his play since coming back from injury. You yourself slag him ad nauseum in every game thread.

Carter set a precedent by loafing and mailing it in when he didn't want to be here anymore, so when the next "franchise" guys struggles it's very easy for people to conclude the same thing is happening even if it's not necessarily the case.

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He's taking grief from the fans and in the media for his play since coming back from injury. You yourself slag him ad nauseum in every game thread.

Carter set a precedent by loafing and mailing it in when he didn't want to be here anymore, so when the next "franchise" guys struggles it's very easy for people to conclude the same thing is happening even if it's not necessarily the case.

You dig?
Yeah i've been slaging him lately. Obviously, he hasn't been agressive at all and has been settling which he hadn't been doing much all season. It's frustrating to say the least. As for the Carter comparison, i think that's wayyyy over stated and over exaggerated. But i can kinda understand the comparison to a degree.
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I can agree that Bosh has checked out. You can see it in the way he plays, he is in coasting mode thnking about next year. When he plays you can see his lack of fighting it out down low. He takes way to mNy jumpers during games now and when they don't fall, which happend often, he just keeps on shooting. If Bosh keeps up the non agressiveness then I'm going to seriously startbooing him be ause it makes me boarder line sick that he keeps shooting and rarely drives the basket.
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Old 03-31-2010, 11:11 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I can agree that Bosh has checked out. You can see it in the way he plays, he is in coasting mode thnking about next year. When he plays you can see his lack of fighting it out down low. He takes way to mNy jumpers during games now and when they don't fall, which happend often, he just keeps on shooting. If Bosh keeps up the non agressiveness then I'm going to seriously startbooing him be ause it makes me boarder line sick that he keeps shooting and rarely drives the basket.
The funniest part of it all was before last game when we were all talking about how he only shoots jumpers and doesn't attack, Chris' first like 10 shots were all jumpers.. lol .. until he dunked on wallace.. that was pretty awesome.. still.. I would sure love to have a big man that does the centre's job.. although Bargs IS getting there..
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The funniest part of it all was before last game when we were all talking about how he only shoots jumpers and doesn't attack, Chris' first like 10 shots were all jumpers.. lol .. until he dunked on wallace.. that was pretty awesome.. still.. I would sure love to have a big man that does the centre's job.. although Bargs IS getting there..
If Bosh starts pulling his jumper shit this game....im going to start booing. His 5 turnovers a game + taking mad jumpers that he misses = Us not going anywhere because the guy gets half the touches on the team
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Uhhhh... Bosh's March numbers aren't far off of his December numbers... when this team was playing very well.

For me? It was obvious to me that Bosh still cared when his first 2 big plays last game were defensive. A block and a charge that he took.

Players who are "clearly mailing it in" don't do those things.
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I think its more of a case of teams having adjusted to Bosh and him not having the same explosiveness he normally has which leads to more jump shots. Judging by the fact this started right after his injury, I'm pretty sure its not that he's checked out and rather a lingering injury or simply fatigue.
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If Bosh starts pulling his jumper shit this game....im going to start booing. His 5 turnovers a game + taking mad jumpers that he misses = Us not going anywhere because the guy gets half the touches on the team
He took 19 shots compared to 60 for the rest of the team. That's 31% of the shots. And he usually shoots less than 19 shots/game.
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He took 19 shots compared to 60 for the rest of the team. That's 31% of the shots. And he usually shoots less than 19 shots/game.
I have no problem with Bosh taking 19 shots per game...even higher, but half of them should be from 5 feet in.
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Yeah, he's averaging 21 points so he's "checked" out.

What bullshit....stupid media trying to create hype
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Yeah, he's averaging 21 points so he's "checked" out.

What bullshit....stupid media trying to create hype
Well, the issue is his PPG/RPG/FG%/FTA are all down. Add to that his lack of aggression and at this time of year in the current situation (w/FA coming), he's being scrutinized accross the board especially from the U.S media and some of his fans as well. It's to be expected. That being said he's starting to play back to a higher level, so lets all see how he plays the rest of the season.
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I think Bosh is playing hurt so that everyone and his teammate speculate that he's not 100% and the media will spread the word around saying Bosh is probably going to not staying in Toronto because how bad they doing; by doing that Bosh will let his team evolve a bit more and when come playoff time he's going to explode; I think I'm dreaming too much :P
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Writer of this article not up to date is he; Bosh surpassed Carter as the best Raptor all-time this season.
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Writer of this article not up to date is he; Bosh surpassed Carter as the best Raptor all-time this season.
Only in total points, which means he's played more years. Doesn't make him our best player in franchise history. He's easily #2, but #1? Very debatable.
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Well, the issue is his PPG/RPG/FG%/FTA are all down. Add to that his lack of aggression and at this time of year in the current situation (w/FA coming), he's being scrutinized accross the board especially from the U.S media and some of his fans as well. It's to be expected. That being said he's starting to play back to a higher level, so lets all see how he plays the rest of the season.
To be says that he's "checked" out...they're basically saying he's mentally not into it, and that's unfair to say. Just because his numebrs are SLIGHTLY Down...
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To be says that he's "checked" out...they're basically saying he's mentally not into it, and that's unfair to say. Just because his numebrs are SLIGHTLY Down...
You obviously havent been watching the games, Bosh settles for jumpers like its his new job. He has checked out on every level
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