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Old 02-28-2008, 01:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1. The mighty Raptors

I've been getting a lot of puzzled e-mails lately about the Toronto Raptors, who are fourth in this morning's Hollinger Power Rankings despite having the league's 13th-best record.



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Chris Bosh and the Raptors are a force to be reckoned with.


The Raptors didn't have a big reputation coming into the season, have only one household name in the lineup, and haven't been past the first round of the playoffs in half a decade. So what gives?



Here's the deal: They're a lot better than their record. As I keep saying, victory margin is a better indicator of future success than win-loss record, and the Raptors' average margin of plus-4.64 is better than that of the Mavs, Magic, Rockets, Warriors and Nuggets -- all of whom have better win-loss records.



Additionally, that number has ballooned of late. The Raptors haven't put together an impressive win streak, so they have slipped past everyone's attention -- the Raptors are a solid but hardly awe-inspiring 10-6 in their past 16 games.



But look closer and you'll see what an impressive stretch it's been. Five of the six losses were by five points or less, while eight of the 10 wins were by 17 or more; one of the two that wasn't was a 114-112 win in Boston that was the best shooting display a team has put on all season.



Let's put it more simply: The Raps aren't beating people, they're killing them. Toronto topped Milwaukee by 31, Washington by 39, Miami by 32, Minnesota by 23 and 22, New jersey by 18, Orlando by 17, and New York by 23. In a 16-game stretch, half their games were blowout wins.
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Old 02-28-2008, 01:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Still doesn't mean squat come playoffs time, but a pleasant thing to read nevertheless...
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Old 02-28-2008, 02:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Still doesn't mean squat come playoffs time, but a pleasant thing to read nevertheless...
agreed.
and especially when he shos the numbers...

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Let's put it more simply: The Raps aren't beating people, they're killing them. Toronto topped Milwaukee by 31, Washington by 39, Miami by 32, Minnesota by 23 and 22, New jersey by 18, Orlando by 17, and New York by 23. In a 16-game stretch, half their games were blowout wins.
thats insane if you think about it.
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Old 02-28-2008, 02:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Well.

What it means is this.

When you look around the league at last nights stats, and you have been seeing these elite teams for years with so many lop sided wins.

Ya, it means your team is becomming one of those teams to fans in Charlotte, or Minnisota.

I like that.
and How that relates to the playoffs;

1. It means my team will be in them.
2. It means my team is not an underdog to win in them.

I'll take it. My Memory aint that short.
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Old 02-28-2008, 03:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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OK, for the people with long memory...

Jump-shooting teams who are at best average defensively do not do well in the playoffs. They live and die by their jump-shots. In the playoffs, they mostly die.
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Old 02-28-2008, 03:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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OK, for the people with long memory...

Jump-shooting teams who are at best average defensively do not do well in the playoffs. They live and die by their jump-shots. In the playoffs, they mostly die.
Exactly Mike .... hence why BC went out to get Primo. An attacking big man who's an unstoppable force.

Anyhow, unless something changes soon we've always been a team that live and die by the jumper, so until I see something different nothing will change this season.
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:43 PM   #7 (permalink)
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OK, for the people with long memory...

Jump-shooting teams who are at best average defensively do not do well in the playoffs. They live and die by their jump-shots. In the playoffs, they mostly die.
The fact that Jason Collins is no longer in the conference is a huge boon for us.
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:54 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Now, about that Brezec dude.

On his attitude alone, I'd start giving him Rasho's minutes and if he continues to do what he's been doing so far, even some of Bargs'.

I am serious. His yelling and pushing people to their proper places in the zone was a thing of beauty to watch - not only was he in position AT ALL TIMES, he also helped others be in a proper spot on the floor. On offence, when he is not shooting, he is ALWAYS hanging around the offensive boards, banging with people not unlike what Jeff Foster has been doing in Indy for years. In short, he has been exactly what we've been missing - a good, active defensive centre who goes after the boards. What's not to like?

As for the jump shots - I've had it with Moon and Delfino. Both are streaky as hell and both are soooo slow to realize when it's their off-night and it's time to start driving. Moon is especially guilty of this, and I am sure Sam has had it out with him on more than one occasion.
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:56 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Seriously Brezec on Defense might be my favorite thing out of the raps this year....and yes he has been more effective than Rasho.

Mike I think you and I are the only ones not drinking Delfino's Kool-Aid.

And Jamario should never shoot again.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:39 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I was on Moon from the beginning for his jump shooting, but you got to admit that lately he's shooting much better. He's no kapono, but he's shooting 40% from 3pt in February, after 33% in January. Obviously he should score a lot more inside, but the reality is that people are leaving him so wide open that it's too hard for him not to shoot.
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Moon needs to take it to the hole with more authority. He drives to the basket and gets all timid and puts up an akward looking layup. Be a man throw it down on someone.
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imo, he often looks like he's scared to make a fool out of himself. If I'm right, once he gets more confidence, he will start taking more risks.
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
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seriously hollinger's system is so flawed i dont know where to begin, obv when your a team that lives and dies by the 3 ball and jumpers when u are hitting u will crush teams, it doesnt mean a damn thing tho. To say average margin of victory is more important then wins and losses is ridic, say u win 10 games all year, but win them all by 30+ and lose most games by 5 or less, according to jim u would be pretty stellar?

Now i dont mind us getting some love, but even us hardcore fans are more realistic then to think we are the 4th best team in the league, arent we?
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"Let's put it more simply: The Raps aren't beating people, they're killing them. Toronto topped Milwaukee by 31, Washington by 39, Miami by 32, Minnesota by 23 and 22, New jersey by 18, Orlando by 17, and New York by 23. In a 16-game stretch, half their games were blowout wins."

22-36
27-30
10-44
12-44
26-32
37-23
18-39

Those are the records of the teams we have "blown out". Don't get me wrong, I love this team, but if we happen to get to the 2nd round, we should count our lucky stars.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:36 PM   #15 (permalink)
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heh some of you guys sound like you hate your own team

Anyway, it seems like Hollinger will live and die with his numbers

- but I like the Kudos for the Raps!!
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:49 PM   #16 (permalink)
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no worries, in 2 weeks we'll be back to 15 in Hollinger's ratings.
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holla back hollinger
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