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Dr. J. Naismith 08-20-2008 12:28 AM

Hollinger: Bosh the Best Defensive Player By A Mile
 
In the Olympics of course, but nevertheless a nice compliment to be given. :clapping:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESPN
Joe (Grand Rapids, MI): How would you rank the top 5 players on the USA team? I would probably go LeBron, Wade, Howard, Melo, Kobe...What say you?

SportsNation John Hollinger: Wade has been the best player in the tournament, hands down. For those of you who haven't seen the games, he's been scary good and looks completely recovered from the injuries. After that I'd go LeBron, Bosh (best defensive player by a mile), Kobe and CP3.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESPN
Kelvin (Orlando, FL): Bosh (best defensive player by a mile)? Are we watching the same games? Kobe has been killing the other team's ballhandlers.

SportsNation John Hollinger: Kobe absolutely ruined Jasikevicius's life in a tune-up game vs. Lithuania, but he hasn't quite had the same impact in the five Olympic contests. Check out Bosh on screen-rolls -- he's been awesome.

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Apollo 08-20-2008 12:32 AM

If his play carries over into the season the Raptors are set to make some big time noise this year. Jermaine is going to lock it down and if Bosh brings it too, watch out.

Ball Don't Lie 08-20-2008 12:39 AM

Where was this energy, intensity, and physicality during the NBA season? He'd just try and avoid fouls at all costs for the Raps now all of a sudden hes playing superb defence. We all know he has it in him, but is it his conditioning or something thats holding him back from playing both sides of the ball more than effectively? His defence has been a joke since his rookie year.

Ugo Ferst 08-20-2008 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by thriller92 (Post 51143)
Where was this energy, intensity, and physicality during the NBA season? He'd just try and avoid fouls at all costs for the Raps now all of a sudden hes playing superb defence. We all know he has it in him, but is it his conditioning or something thats holding him back from playing both sides of the ball more than effectively? His defence has been a joke since his rookie year.

Perhaps being on a team where he isnt relied on to be Mr. Everything and he has other guys he can count on defensively to make plays aswell helps a bit? Along with a better defensive scheme and a better overall coach.

LX 08-20-2008 07:55 AM

I'd say having guys around him that can back him up. Guarding the pick and roll requires more than just one guy doing the work. And he has shown intensity and physicality, but certainly not like he's shown now while he's had the bad heel or worn the knee brace. I think it's pretty easy to figure that one out.

Ball Don't Lie 08-20-2008 08:40 AM

Quote:

Perhaps being on a team where he isnt relied on to be Mr. Everything and he has other guys he can count on defensively to make plays aswell helps a bit? Along with a better defensive scheme and a better overall coach.
Theres that, but theres also many plays where he avoids fouls at all costs and just lets his man go by him trying to avoid contact at all costs. If he doesnt stop that this year then there is definately something very very wrong. His individual D needs to go from cellar to above average this year for us to win a round, not to mention his help d which was average at best the first 3 qtrs, where in the 4th qtr he seeemd to step it up a bit in a lot of games. He should be able to do it all game now that he has JO beside him.

Shifty.py 08-20-2008 01:46 PM

Yes, Bosh in Olympics has a whole different role. Did he get one jumpshot in all these games? No, its just defence, rebound and around the rim focus.

moremilk 08-20-2008 01:57 PM

there is more to defence than pick and roll ... in international games, where that's the bread and butter against team USA, he's facing a lot of that. In NBA there are other areas where he is lacking. Plus he's playing twice as many minutes, which is a major difference.

Gurk 08-20-2008 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by •LX• (Post 51159)
I'd say having guys around him that can back him up. Guarding the pick and roll requires more than just one guy doing the work. And he has shown intensity and physicality, but certainly not like he's shown now while he's had the bad heel or worn the knee brace. I think it's pretty easy to figure that one out.

Well now he has JO and that might help him and show the same type of defense he is playing in the Olympics

dfunkie1 08-20-2008 02:38 PM

when does school start again?

Gurk 08-20-2008 02:38 PM

September, why?

dfunkie1 08-20-2008 02:48 PM

just curious if you've done all your back to school shopping yet

:coffee:

Gurk 08-20-2008 02:53 PM

I haven't yet

LX 08-20-2008 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moremilk (Post 51252)
Plus he's playing twice as many minutes, which is a major difference.

Bingo - that's where carrying less of a load, with JO alongside him, should really help.

For anyone who really wants to think that it's the difference in coaching - look at how bad Bosh played the Pick and Roll under the same coach K two years ago. If anything Sam has helped him improve over those two years.

Actually I would say that Bosh did start to show this kind of form last season. Believe it or not the guy has not peaked yet. I'd say he's probably starting to get close to that now though.

'trane 08-20-2008 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuggleBled (Post 51276)
just curious if you've done all your back to school shopping yet

:coffee:

:laughing1:

t-bag 08-20-2008 06:57 PM

Bosh > Kobe? hahhahah :ladeeda:

Gurk 08-20-2008 07:47 PM

He means only on defense, not overall or that would be funny

LX 08-20-2008 07:56 PM

I think he was slighting Kobe terribly. Why does everybody pick on Kobe?

moremilk 08-20-2008 08:29 PM

because usa was burnt so many times on pick and roll defense in the past - it was their achile's heel for the past decade. The need for a big capable of defending that was greater than the need for a shutdown defender, in a game that's not star based. It's great to have a guy like kobe being able to shutdown a star guard, but when you're playing teams with 10 guys of more or less equal value, it helps more to have a guy that can defend a system of playing ... I think :)

LX 08-20-2008 08:36 PM

[whine]But Kobe is a God. If anyone's name is even mentioned, then it should be clear that Kobe is better than that named person in every way imaginable. When Obama made those 3 pointers in Iraq, the news anchors should have said that Kobe would have made those shots, and made Iraq into the world's greatest tourist destination. When Phelps won all those races, somebody should have said that he was lucky that Kobe was busy with basketball, because otherwise Phelps might as well just be peeing in the pool if he was going to have to race Kobe.[/whine]


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